Comment on YSK that Gerrymandering allows politicians to choose their own voters. In many countries, it's illegal. Gerrymandering is common in the United States

RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• ToastedRavioli@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Ah, the minority locator.

  That first one is no longer like that, but according to Wikipedia was done by the Democrats.

  It’s a complex issue as well, because it’s not always done for nefarious reasons. If say 20% of a city is black, they might bundle them up so that they end up with one black guy and four white guys running the city, rather than the 5 white guys that would come from a “fairer” distribution.

  But it’s all just window dressing on the fact that first past the post systems aren’t fit for purpose. If I vote for something, I want that counted at all levels up to the national level, not just thrown away because my particular group of streets doesn’t like it.

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• OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  🎵how insane can you go?🎶

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• Carighan@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I request all districts are now Penrose tiled using the Einstein hat!

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We need more 1 and 3, and less 2 4 5.

  If the enemy has nukes, don’t unilaterally disarm. Same here.

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  • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    What the fuck does this even mean

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It means if democrats don’t gerrymander more, the house permanently in favor of republicans. Wont matter if you win like 60%, you still get a minority if seats.

      Idk why people are downvoting, but I guess liberals love “playing by the rules”. Lol “when they go low, you go high” is why traitors have control of the countries. But anyways, libs being libs 🤷‍♂️

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      • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Good example of why the US is so gerrymandered. People aren’t against gerrymandering, just against the other side doing it

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      • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        People are downvoting because your solution to oppressing democracy is doubling down on it.

        And your take is that “libs love playing by the rules” when someone says that this rule should be abolished? Lol

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  • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hmm?

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  • m0darn@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This one is better because turnout matters and gives representative elections.

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• bss03@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They are so insane they inspired art: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU8H-Ts_rfA

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  While I do agree, the difficulty is plausible deniability. If you want people with something in common to have a voice, perhaps a suburban ring around an urban core is a fair choice that looks like one of these.

  I’m sure it’s not, but that could happen and whatever rule should allow that possibility. This is why it’s not easy to set a clear rule or a clear determination. Now it’s case by case and up to the judicial branch.

  Perhaps setting a speed limit would go a long way - you can only redistrict on certain large changes such as the census every ten years and it can’t go into effect without judicial review, without all the appeals being exhausted. In this case Texas doesnt seem to have a legitimate reason to redistrict, and was it Georgia last year trying to argue that they had to use the new map for an election despite it being likely illegal

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