Comment on This 81-year-old still works at Home Depot to support herself and her 90-year-old husband

• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Also randomly wasn’t this how we lived before pensions?

  I suspect you’re making a point here, but I’m not sure what it is.

  Remember that the silents were born in an age where unions were far more prevalent. I’m not sure whether that addresses the point you were trying to make, but maybe.

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  • Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    yeah like before modern capitalism, how did we live? we just worked until we couldn’t yeah?

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    • ugo@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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      • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I don’t think they’re arguing for the old ways but rather just wondering out loud

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      • Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yep so it sounds like computers and society may be to blame for this? As we’ve moved towards a more individualistic society over the last 100 years we’ve gained a lot of things but being able to take care of our elders appears to have been lost in the fray :\

        This will hurt a lot coming up with the low fertility rate and significant amount of older people

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• garbagebagel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I know plenty of people in Canada and Mexico that still work much later than they should have to to support family members. Might not be a problem in more socialist countries but definitely not uniquely an American problem.

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  • Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    yeah wondering about the special pleading going on here, as i realised above, I’m really not sure about their finances

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• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Most of the world has and to a large degree still relies on relatives to support them when they can’t work anymore

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  • Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    100% this is what i was thinking of, what do people in those countries do if they don’t have children to take care of them?

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    • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Some sort of charity. From religious institutions, some sort of alms house etc. Or just beg and die.

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      • Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Right now, the Hindses take in $4,600 a month from their Social Security, Bill’s pension from a TV station in Connecticut, and Lydia’s monthly wages. Monthly rent for their one-bedroom apartment in a 55-plus development is $1,400, their car payment is $625 a month, their car insurance is $236 a month, and their Medicare combined is $426 a month. On top of that, they have emergency medical expenses, medications, grocery and gas bills, and utilities. They’re left with close to nothing at the end of the month.

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        The hell is this? 2.1k a month on rent??

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        Why do they have to pay $625 for a car??

        Is this normal in America?

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• WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Pensions are a roman invention

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  • Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Pensions are a roman invention

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_retirement

    Looks like it was just for those who served in the military, what did other people do?

    In 1881,[3][4] the conservative German chancellor, Otto Von Bismarck, in a maneuver against Marxists who were burgeoning in power and popularity, announced that anyone over 70 years old would be forced to retire and that he would pay a pension to them

    What did they do before 1881? Just keep working?

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    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Usually, they died well before, or lived in wealth from the remaining wealth.

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