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So do a million different forms of encryption. That doesn’t make the infrastructure any less centralized. If the people who own the fiber decide to only allow pre-approved types of traffic to cross their networks then it doesn’t make any difference what sort of protocols exist. Building free cross-country or subsea fiber routes is not economically viable and the internet doesn’t exist without them.

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muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Please look into how i2p works. It’s not just some form of encryption.

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- krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Please explain how you can bypass carrier enforced traffic shaping policy.
  
  From geti2p.net:
  
  I2P’s protocols are efficient on most platforms, including cell phones, and secure for most threat models. However, there are several areas which require further improvement to meet the needs of those facing powerful state-sponsored adversaries, and to meet the threats of continued cryptographic advances and ever-increasing computing power.
  
  The people involved in the project you’re referring to acknowledge that governments can, by influencing carrier policy, disrupt and subvert the project’s intended function. Why then are you implying they are incorrect?
  
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  - InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    This could give some helpful insights: github.com/redecentralize/alternative-internet?ta…
    
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    krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    While there are interesting projects in that list, everything that I see is either only useful in a local setting, like wireless mesh networks and their derivative protocols, or assumes that no one is actively restricting what can be transmitted over the privately owned long haul fiber networks that make up the backbone of the internet. How would someone in Seattle transmit more data than can be sent via a ham radio equivalent signal to someone in New York without the use of those fiber networks?
    
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  - muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You are arguing a different point here than you were above and I’m not going to entertain the misdirect.
    
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    krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Perhaps you misunderstood my point in your haste to make a complicated problem seem simple but no, my argument has not changed.
    
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sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s a very different story than requiring I’d for some websites

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- krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  No it isn’t. Either traffic is allowed to flow freely or it isn’t. Once you start down the “isn’t” path there’s not much that can be done to get around the fact that a few people control a huge chunk of the infrastructure.
  
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