Comment on Proton’s Lumo AI chatbot: not end-to-end encrypted, not open source
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 day agoOk yeah thats a far cry from Proton actually “Having your unencrypted emails on their servers”
There’s the standard layer of trust you need to have in a third party when you’re not self hosting. Proton has proven so far that they do in fact encrypt your emails and haven’t given any up to authorities when ordered to so I’m not sure where the issue is.
Ok yeah thats a far cry from Proton actually “Having your unencrypted emails on their servers” as if they’re not encrypted at rest.
See my other reply. There is no way to retrieve your mail using IMAP on a regular client if they’re encrypted on the server. And Gmail can retrieve your mails from proton using IMAP. It’s even in their own (proton’s) documentation.
Agreed.
Really, if someone wants to use an LLM, the right place to run it is in a sandbox locally on your own computer
Anything else is just a stupid architecture. You don’t run your Second Brain on Someone Else’s Computer
There is no way to retrieve your mail using IMAP on a regular client if they’re encrypted on the server.
That is probably why you can’t retrieve your emails using IMAP from a regular client.
And Gmail can retrieve your mails from proton using IMAP. It’s even in their own (proton’s) documentation.
I don’t think it can. Where in the documentation did you find that?
And Gmail can retrieve your mails from proton using IMAP. It’s even in their own (proton’s) documentation.I don’t think it can. Where in the documentation did you find that?
An online search brought me here : getmailbird.com/…/access-protonmail-com-via-imap-… which did looks like a documentation page about how to do exactly that. Obviously, it has nothing to do with them, and the actual details makes no sense the lower you get in the page. I’ve been had :)
You’re right that they can see the emails in transit if you’re not using encryption, but they never said they can’t. They are as secure as they can possibly be, and are honest about what’s secure and what’s not. I would leave Protonmail at the first sniff of trouble but I just haven’t seen anything that concerning.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 17 hours ago
We need to call for an audit on Protons policy and see if they actually do what they say, that way we can know for almost certain that everything is good as they say
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I mean we know from documented events that Proton doesn’t store you emails in plain text because there have been Swiss orders to turn over information which they have to comply with and they’ve never turned in emails, because they can’t.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 15 hours ago
Do you have a source for that? I know they handed over an IP address, but I haven’t heard about them handing over an email.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
As far as I know they have not handed over any emails.