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Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Yeah, nah.

Petition these people:

www.collectiveshout.org/partners

Collective Shout is sustained by a small number of Australian partners. These are not big groups, and would quickly pull funding under any sort of pressure.

Collective Shout has a deep history with Christofascism and TERFs, so highlighting those angles is the way to go to get them pariahed. Once CS is out of the picture, we can work on undoing the damage they did.

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artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Petitioning people to do something that is against their entire purpose doesn't seem like it would be effective.

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- TexasDrunk@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Not only that, they’ll get louder claiming they’re being oppressed. Ignore them.
  
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  - FundMECFS@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Go on about being harassed and doing “high risk work”
    
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seralth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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- hikaru755@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I think the idea is to pressure the partners of Collective Shout, per the url in the comment. Those might not necessarily agree with what they’re doing in this case, and if they see it’s making waves, reconsider their partnership.
  
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  - GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Looking at the partners on that page, I think at least half of them are more than okay with Collective Shout’s actions.
    
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    Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Most of them are charities and probably don’t know they’re supporting transphobia.
    
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DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Archived page: archive.ph/Ttyr5

Just in case.

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Pamasich@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This is incredibly shortsighted.

If you get Collective Shout to stop, another group might pick up where they left off.

The problem needs to be fixed, what you're suggesting is just making the people currently abusing it stop doing so. That's not a long term solution.

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- Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  No it’s incredibly idiotic to do otherwise.
  
  You don’t fight a fire while the arsonist is still setting it on fire.
  
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  - Pamasich@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Except they're not fighting the fire here, they're taking away the arsonist's flamethrowser so he can't continue making the fire. Without that flamethrower, the arsonist can't do shit.
    
    Fighting the fire would be petitioning Steam, but the target is the payment processors that pressured Steam on request of Collective Shout.
    
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    Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Fighting the fire happens after stopping the person lighting the fire. Focus on the immediate threat, don’t get distracted by the lofty long term.
    
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