Comment on ‘If I switch it off, my girlfriend might think I’m cheating’: inside the rise of couples location sharing

• WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This has nothing to do with the tracking.

  what is “this”? location sharing apps? if yes, why do you think these are unrelated?

  You should have the same problem with anyone that has location turned on in their phone.

  I don’t care about a random person having location turned on. why should I? there’s plenty of offline uses for that function, I use it regularly. maps, sports tracking, reminders, …

  , as we use Google maps to navigate as is. I reject the premise that I’m violating someone else’s privacy by doing so.

  that’s ok, when it only affects you. but when you are navigating to a friend’s place, with this thinking you are just ignorant about what is actually happening. I’m genuinely sorry to point this out.

  this is a bit similar to when people refuse the fact that by uploading a picture of someone to facebook they might be violating their privacy.
  or when people haphazardly allow contacts access to random apps, or to apps like facebook messenger because it asks so nicely, and then disclaim responsibility over where does that contact information go.

  You certainly wouldn’t have the right to ask someone to turn something like that off simply because you don’t trust the corporations on the other end,

  not just the corporations, but the tech hygiene of the average person. I am aware that it sounds bad, and I hate it that it is warranted.

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  • erin@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Are you seriously arguing that navigating to someone's house with Google maps is violating their privacy? When I do share my location, I'm sharing through Google maps, directly to my wife's Google account. Google can already see my location for maps purposes. They have obtained no new information. If you are in fact arguing that using Google maps violates the privacy of anyone you navigate to, then I just don't agree and can't take you seriously. If you're arguing that somehow sharing my location to my wife's account in Google maps is somehow fundamentally different for privacy than using Google maps is already, then I just don't understand you. You're okay with people using maps but not sharing their location within those maps apps, that's a very confusing moral stance.

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Are you seriously arguing that navigating to someone’s house with Google maps is violating their privacy? When I do share my location, I’m sharing through Google maps, directly to my wife’s Google account. Google can already see my location for maps purposes. They have obtained no new information.

      yes I do. that information does not just stay on your phone. just like taking pictures of someone and uploading them to facebook against their will. or the other examples I already said. convenience does not magically launder an act that goes against someone’s privacy.

      you are right that in your case they did not obtain new information with the planned route, because the location sharing already exposes it. I thought it is obvious that it only applies when you are not sharing your location.

      You’re okay with people using maps but not sharing their location within those maps apps. That’s a very confusing moral stance.

      I don’t see why is that confusing. there are map apps that dont share your searches or anything with anyone. google maps is not the only thing on the world.

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      • erin@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It's simply unrealistic and excessive to expect people to stop using one of the most accessible services that comes built in to most phones, and has features that cannot easily be replaced. All my privacy and data options are restricted in maps, but I'm sure they still collect some data. I have no intent though to stop using a service that is incredibly important to organizing and planning my life (traffic, community driven reports of detours, construction, cops, etc, weather specific reroutes, fuel efficiency route selection) because someone online has absolutely unrealistic expectations of others' data privacy. Navigating to someone in maps is not the same as uploading a picture of them. Google sees my location and my destinations already. All that changes when I turn on my location tracking is that so does my wife. Your argument doesn't make sense and is unreasonable.

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