Comment on Amazon Ring Cashes in on Techno-Authoritarianism and Mass Surveillance

• tabular@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  An offsite server is not under your control and accessible by who knows. Surely it is still a privacy concern.

  Privacy is like security in that it costs time. Most people don’t spend time on even having a conversation like this but if something bothers you then finding a spare day is easier.

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• Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Besides that I would trust a Chinese cloud way more than a murican one (I’m non-US), this really is a lazy excuse. This apathy paired with ignorance or being technically challenged is the main reason dystopian shit like ring even sells at all. Or all those silly “smart” assistants like Alexa.

  E.g. A raspberry (or the likes) with some run-of-the-mill ip-cam, some wifi-doorbell and AgentDVR would do the same for even less moneyz. And just for you, not the whole world. Wouldn’t take more than some hours of setup.

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Phrases like “renewing my subscription” in context of a fucking doorbell itself sounds so absurd to me.

    Why? It’s logical to want your video footage held offsite so that burglars don’t just take the device you’re storing the footage of them on. Which means paying someone to store it for you. Which means a subscription. Even if you’re running AgentDVR on an offsite server that you control, you’re still paying money to the hosting company.

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why do I need the footage offsite? Because the burglar might’ve stolen the server/raspberry? I actually have my server storage hidden, if that would even be on the radar of a thief, which I really doubt.

      But even if, an encrypted storage of your own choosing still beats random access by who-the-fuck-even-knows.

      OK, granted, your 19-moneyz-solution is financially hard to beat, and probably no Chinese really gives a rats ass about your data. But even the thought that some random cloud-admin might just take a peek out of boredom…ugh. But OK, I’m a very private person.

      A proper solution that does not suck probably costs a bit more than a ring (dunno what they cost though), but if one owns a house, one probably has a few spare hundreds or thousands for a secure surveillance.

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• drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Nah you’re just being lazy. Its really not that hard. At least be ashamed man instead of this defeatist bullshit.

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  • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What you’re saying makes me think you aren’t aware of the technical knowledge of your typical doorbell user, which is basically little to none.

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And exactly this behavior (“I have no clue about the thing I will do, but I’ll do it anyway without educating myself prior”) is what makes everything suck more and more because it always gets adapted to the lowest common denominator.

      We’re only still alive because people need licenses to drive cars or fly planes.

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      • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Its just sheer laziness. These people are dragging our entire society down because they can’t spend 30 minutes to read the manual. This should be shameful unjustifiable behavior.

        Betting 100% that the same people are calling someone else lazy every week without any self awareness.

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      • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But this maybe implies that there’s a possibility to change this behaviour. Which is infeasible. If you’re not implying that and you’re just saying that in vacuum, then yeah sure. That said it’s not the only reaaon why things suck more and changing this behaviour is not the only way to not have things suck, For example a government in a more democratic system might serve its citizens more than its corporations and ban these practices.

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