Comment on OpenAI just launched its new ChatGPT Agent that can make as many as 1 complicated cupcake order per hour, but even Sam Altman says you probably shouldn't trust it for 'high-stakes uses'

• Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No you can’t if you don’t know the libraries. Python is entirely dependent on what libraries you include. If you don’t know what you need you can’t do shit.

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  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No you can’t if you don’t know the libraries

    IDE.

    Python is entirely dependent on what libraries you include

    ??

    If you don’t know what you need you can’t do shit.

    IDE.

    The problems you propose in your comment are not only greatly exaggerated but already been solved for decades using conventional tools AND apply to literally all languages, having nothing at all to do with python. Good try! My statement holds true.

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    • Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In a cave with pen and paper is nearly what I learned with. I learned with the run time, msdn, notepad and the cmd line. And yes you do end up in many situations where you simply don’t have or can’t use a full on ide everytime. Sounds like you’ve never really left your comfort zones and stuck your neck out in some tech you don’t understand quite yet. Or worked in areas under strict software controls.

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      • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s telling that you’re focused on personal assumptions instead of addressing the argument

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    • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It sounds like you are a much better developer than me, but to be fair I’ve had to teach myself everything using nothing but books and Google for thirty years. I’ve rarely had the luxury of working with someone who had the knowledge to mentor me, so I’ve probably missed some critical skills along the way.

      In a lot of ways, the AI fills that role because it’s better at answering questions than it is writing code. Earlier today it was explaining to me how a DOM selector could return a stale element in some cases because of a failing end to end test. It took a few back and forths with some code examples before I really understood why the selectors might not be working.

      It also suggested some code changes that I had to push back on because, even though the code had errors, the errors weren’t causing the problem. While building an array of promises I had awaited them, causing them to run serially instead of in parallel during Promise.all(). So you definitely have to know what you’re doing to avoid having the AI waste your time (or at least more time than it takes to push back).

      I’m still trying to debug it, but without the AI, I’d be googling the fuck out of typescript syntax, JavaScript idiosyncrasies, and a whole testing framework I’ve never seen before.

      So…

      if the only real value that AI provides is “you don’t need to know the libraries you’re using” …returns false.

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