Just fyi, if cost is your concern, it costs more to give someone the death penalty than life in gaol.
So you’d want to pay for their upkeep. You do that, I’m not giving one cent for pieces of shit that don’t deserve an another chance
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s literally one less mouth to feed and house. Would you be ready to be the next victim of a reckless driver? Maybe you could give them food and shelter, I really hope no tax dollars go to the upkeep of a manslaughterer
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Luckily for us, most of society (in Australia, at least) disagrees with you.
The death penalty is barbaric, and has had many, many, many cases of being committed on innocent people in the US.
The justice system isn’t omnipotent, it’s just humans, afterall. Why yes, let’s make the consequence for getting it wrong death, that seems logical /s
This guy is a piece of shit, and in my opinion deserves more than 6 years of prison and a lifetime ban on operating any motor vehicle (or any heavy machinery full stop), but killing him?
This isn’t Gilead, and eye for an eye is not most Australians values.
Part of living in a society is paying taxes, and some of those taxes will go to things you don’t personally like, but society does (corruption, lobbying and inefficient notwithstanding).
And society has decided we’re living in 2025, not the middle ages. We don’t kill people. We aspire to giving people a second chance. In the grand scheme of things, prisons represent a tiny fraction of Australia’s budget.
I’d say it’s totally worth it if it means people’s family members aren’t being killed for doing something illegal.
There are some cases where the person is question is irredeemable, but I see this as the “cost of doing business” so to speak.
It’s the same reason we have innocent until proven guilty, better to let some guilty people walk free than lock up innocent people. And better to let some awful people live, rather than accidentally kill someone who doesn’t deserve it.
There’s a reason most civilised countries don’t have the death penalty anymore.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You think a piece of shit like that will ever reintegrate? They sent tens of texts while driving, kill them and kill them now. Are you ready to have one of your family be killed by a texting driver?
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
I’m hoping you’re not saying this in real life. Probably getting a lotta these 👀 after nuggets of wisdom like that.
Why are you so sure they’re incapable of being rehabilitated? Humans are just black and white to you?
I’m sure as hell that the death penalty would do practically nothing to solve road deaths. Considering the US is far worse than us in road deaths, and they have the death penalty. It’s almost like we shouldn’t design our cities around everyone being required to drive :O
This obviously doesn’t absolve this arsehole of blame here. He’s clearly done the wrong thing, and deserves punishment and years (more than he received) in prison. But it’s just not the Australian way to kill criminals. Even for murder.
Anyway. I would strongly suggest you keep your pro-death penalty stance online only (your opinion, while I disagree with you, very strongly, is welcomed here. Online).
This all assumes you live in Australia, or basically anywhere in the developed world other than the US.
People will judge you, rightly, in my opinion.
gurnu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ll judge you for defending a murdering piece of shit like him, and justly. Be ready to die by someone texting while driving all you want, I’d rather see the death penalty for actions like his. No excuse to be so blatantly negligent