Comment on AI slows down some experienced software developers, study finds

• squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That’s happening right now. I have a few friends who are looking for entry-level jobs and they find none.

  It really sucks.

  That said, the future lack of developers is a corporate problem, not a problem for developers. For us it just means that we’ll earn a lot more in a few years.

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  • 5too@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You’re not wrong, and I feel like it was a developing problem even before AI - everybody wanted someone with experience, even if the technology was brand new.

    That said, even if you and I will be fine, it’s still bad for the industry. And even if we weren’t the ones pulling up the ladder behind us, I’d still like to find a way to start throwing ropes back down for the newbies…

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    • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They wanted someone with experience, who can hit the ground running, but didn’t want to pay for it, either with cash or time.

      • cheap
      • quick
      • experience

      You can only pick two.

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      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I know which 2 I am in my current role and I don’t know if I like it or not. At least I don’t have to try very hard.

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You’re not wrong, and I feel like it was a developing problem even before AI - everybody wanted someone with experience, even if the technology was brand new.

      True. It was a long-standing problem that entry-level jobs were mostly found in dodgy startups.

      Tbh, I think the biggest issue right now isn’t even AI, but the economy. In the 2010s we had pretty much no intrest rate at all while having a pretty decent economy, at least for IT. The 2008 financial crisis hardly mattered for IT, and Covid was a massive boost for IT. There was nothing else to really spend money on.

      IT always has more projects than manpower, so with enough money to spend, they just hired everyone.

      But the sanctions against Russia in response to their invasion of Ukraine really hit the economy and rising intrest rates to combat inflation meant that suddenly nobody wanted to invest anymore.

      With no investments, startups dried up and large corporations also want to downsize. It’s no coincidence that return-to-work mandates only started after the invasion and not in the two years prior of that where lockdowns were already revoked. Work from home worked totally fine for two years after covid lockdowns, and companies even praised how well it worked.

      Same with AI. While it can improve productivity in some edge cases, I think it’s mostly a scapegoat to make mass-fireings sound like a great thing to investors.

      That said, even if you and I will be fine, it’s still bad for the industry. And even if we weren’t the ones pulling up the ladder behind us, I’d still like to find a way to start throwing ropes back down for the newbies…

      You are totally right with that, and any chance I get I will continue to push for hiring juniors.

      But I am also over corporate tears. For decades they have been crying over a lack of skilled workers in the IT and pushing for more and more people to join IT, so that they can dump wages, and as soon as the economy is bad, they instantly u-turn and dump employees.

      If corporations want to be short-sighted and make people suffer for it, they won’t get compassion from me when it fails.

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      • knexcar@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Was it really Russia’s invasion, or just because the interest rates went up to prevent too much inflation after the COVID stimulus packages? Hard to imagine Russia had that much demand for software compared to the rest of the world.

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  • Feyd@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I would say that “replacing with AI assistance” is probably not what is actually happening. Is it economic factors reducing hiring. This isn’t the first time it has happened and it won’t be the last. The AI boosters are just claiming responsibility for marketing purposes.

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It may also be self fulfilling. Our new ceo said all upcoming projects must save 15% using ai, and while we’re still hiring it’s only in India.

      So 6 months from now we will have status reports talking about how we saved 15% in every project

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      • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And those status reports will be generated by AI, because that’s where the real savings is.

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Only if you are able to get that experience though.

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• astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  100% agreed. It should not be used as a replacement but rather as an augmentation to get the real benefits.

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