Comment on Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• jinarched@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wait, what? I have to buy a PC about every 10 to 15 years and it does’t cost me “thousands”. Last year, I bought one for about $700 and I can run every game at maximum settings with no issues.

  Just wait for components to be on sale (it happens often) and you’ll have a good pc for a very good price.

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  • phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What did you buy for $700 that can play every game at max?

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    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s a quantum computer, I got it from Canada.

      The exchange rate is good right now.

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• tiredofsametab@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I spend something equivalent to around $2k in USD every 5-7 years and I'm fine.

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  • rambaroo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    To be fair that’s a lot more money than a console.

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• zikk_transport2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You realize that game developers no longer optimise their games, they lie and simply do a money grab?

  Anyway, Steam Deck sounds like a solid choice for you. ~500 bucks and you can play almost everything.

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  • Anduin1357@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s funny, Steam Deck is so much weaker than the typical gaming PC and will definitely not outperform an ~RX 6700XT at the same quality level but Steam Deck resolution vs at 1440p. Worse, Steam Deck shares 16 GB of RAM between CPU and GPU, so this guy is gonna have an even smaller list of games they can play on a docked Steam Deck vs a PC.

    Also, Steam Deck can’t be (read: processing power) upgraded, and doesn’t have 3D-VCache, that’s not good for CPU bound games. And then you might also be defaulting to Steam OS, which doesn’t have full compatibility with Windows games, and have a complicated compatability file structure, which could complicate modding and 3rd party utilities.

    So yeah, Steam Deck as a complete desktop replacement has more issues than you might expect. And the worst part is, absent docking portable HDDs, everything is an SSD, so welcome to the SSD $/GB world. TF cards have even worse $/GB.

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    • zikk_transport2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are certain benefits of having Steam Deck:

      1. It’s comfortable - play on your couch, bed sofa or wherever.
      2. Portable - battery-powered handheld gaming device. Play anywhere.
      3. Powerful - it’s not Android-based device, it’s fully featured computer that is capable of running even the latest games at 30fps (but as you said - it’s not always the case).
      4. It’s cheap - you can have a gaming “PC” for 500$/€
      5. Linux feature - instant sleep & resume mid-game. Perfect if “free time” isn’t your second name.

      As someone who has gaming PC (nvidia 2080Ti, ryzen 9 3900x, 32gb ram, FHD 280Hz monitor) as well as gaming laptop (nvidia 3080m, intel i7 something, 32gb of ram, 2K 240Hz display) and Xbox series X with LG C1 TV - I am still spending most of my time on Steam Deck. Why? Convenience.

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      • Anduin1357@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        #1 you’re also restricted to whatever plays nice with the steam input system, and custom inputs are generally more tedious to use than a mouse and keyboard.

        #2 that’s the entire point of the Steam Deck.

        #3 isn’t the hallmarks of something “powerful”, I’m surprised that you would consider 30 fps acceptable given that you know what 240 fps is like.

        #4 it’s not cheap. It’s just at the right proce for the hardware. The only reason why it doesn’t feel worse is because it’s running at 1280x800p. The display is literally from the discard pile with its terrible colours.

        #5 Windows could do the same if Valve tried hard enough. Suspend/Resume isn’t that special and I’ve manually invoked it on desktop for all kinds of things before. >Task Manager.

        #6 that’s because Steam is doing the legwork to make things work for you. See what they did with Elden Ring’s stuttering problem. I challenge you otherwise to access the game directories of any game running through proton. There’s a whole emulated filestructure that you have to understand before modding the game on Steam Deck.

        Power user stuff is outside the scope of gaming for most people.

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  • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I much prefer that, like a console I just want to be able to pop something in and have it run.

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• RandomStickman@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just stop chasing trends and play everything on a 5-10 year delay. Or better yet, just play indie. I save so much
  money and my backlog is so long I don't even have time to play all of it.

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  • Anduin1357@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Any recommendations?

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    • RandomStickman@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I've just installed STALKER: Anomaly, a total conversion mod for STALKER: Call of Chernobyl. If you've never played the STALKER series before it is one of my favourite games of all time.

      Operation Harsh Doorstop and Ravenfield are fun fps to casually dick around. I like them for their growing Steamworkshop mod scene, especially with Ravenfield.

      Return of the Obra Dinn and Disco Elysium are two games on my backlog that saddens me every time I see it because I'd love to finish them but I just couldn't find the time.

      Project Zomboid and Deep Rock Galayctic are fun times with people.

      I was gifted Frostpunk and Outer Wilds. I haven't got around to playing it yet but my brother loved it.

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• Naatan@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  To be fair people who pay thousands are probably perfectly fine with Starfield, although they may have to be satisfied with 120fps instead of 240fps.

  The ones mainly hurting are the ones with similar budgets as console gamers. And console gamers are hardly unfamiliar with performance issues.

  Being a pc gamer has much more to do with what ecosystem you get to tap into, rather than how much you’re spending.

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  • szczuroarturo@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Actually its quite the opposite usualy and games on conosles run well while on pc they can be a buggy mess. Granted on pc they will/can look better but the optimization is mostly done for console players.

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  • Hoomod@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The game averages 75fps with a 4090 or 7900xtx at 4k high settings

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• NinjaJoey209@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m sure a $1k+ PC can run pretty much any game, but not at the same graphics quality as a $4k HPC that helped create it.

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