Comment on Outgrown my Synology NAS, time for a proper dedicated machine
LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 1 week agoIn hindsight, I didn’t explain myself well enough. My plan is to use my current NAS as a NAS and little more; I’d like a machine with respectable hardware to handle what my NAS is currently running plus more.
My NAS has Jellyfin, arrs, all the stuff that goes with that, Pi-hole, and Homarr. And that’s pushing its limits: everything has been slow, streams freeze, I’ve had containers quit, etc.
I’d like to get into other projects like Radicale, Mealie, ErsatzTV (old PC could handle it, NAS can’t), CCTV, and more. But according to my resources, the NAS can’t handle it
GPU (for the sake of transcoding) isn’t worth it?
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
This makes sense
No sense in getting rid of hardware that is working. I’m not familiar with ersatztv but for all the other stuff I am able to handily run it on a 10th gen intel build that is also handling nas duties fwiw. And some stuff is not ideal (cctv is handled via blue iris, which runs in windows VM, everything else is docker)
for the gpu it really depends on your needs. How many users is the big one. If you have at most 2-4 concurrent users and that is an uncommon scenario the gpu is a waste of power, money, and thermal management. Igpu will sip power and transcode (depending on library content, again av1/vp9 on a 10th gen isn’t happening) with that user load assuming you have a decent amount of ram (I have 32gb so you don’t need absurd amounts).
However if you have a lot of users hitting you, 5-6+ or more concurrent streams that all transcode, then you need to start evaluating a discrete gpu (and maybe a significant internet connection bc damn). Alternatively you can suggest your users get something like a ugoos am6b+ flashed with coreelec or a similar setup that can just direct play basically anything but that’s a bit challenging to setup
LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
So I’m expecting a max of 5 concurrent users, but most wouldn’t need transcoding. The real hiccup (brace yourself) is a 720p CRT and (assuming I get transcoding to work well) a 480p CRT. I’m pretty novice to PC specs outside of the “buy whatever you can afford for gaming” mindset, so any suggestions there are welcome. My budget is…whatever it takes to not regret the hardware years from now. My last build was $2k for reference
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
When it comes to builds my mentality is “save shit from the landfill and spend as little as possible” haha
I feel like there is always a push for consumerism in (basically anything, but especially this) space. You’ll read forums and watch youtube videos that show dumb nerds with sponsorships doing a build with an $1800 budget and for what? Running a nas? Jellyfin? Caldav? This stuff doesn’t take a ton of overhead
If you’re running 5 concurrent users with 2-3 transcoding quicksync should handle that. Research this more but in my experience it works fine. For reference my library is all extremely high quality either 1080 remux or 4k remux with hdr/dv whenever possible (so tonemapping is required) and lossless audio (dts-hd, atmos, etc). If your library is like mine this bumps things up a bit and will use more cores - quicksync will handle the video fine but cores will be needed for the audio and the tonemapping of hdr/dv layer. Additionally if you’re like me and have a ton of anime (or just someone who likes subtitles) another core gets taken to burn those in. For my library with 2-3 users this is fine, could probably even handle 1-2 more (maybe, depends on what they watch).
This is where scalability comes in. Pick a case and psu where you have the option for a discrete gpu if it ever becomes necessary. You extend to 15 users or decide you want to run deepseek locally? Picking a motherboard with an extra PCIE x16 slot is helpful. since you’re offloading NAS to the synology you can just get a motherboard with a pcie slot, though getting one with multiple opens the option that down the line you could add an HBA and a second array should the synology run out of space. Again, depends on your long term plans
Look on marketplace, Craigslist, eBay, etc for older hardware. Full desktops use a lot of power, which sucks, but the advantage for you is that they are expensive to ship so they can get sold a bit cheaper sometimes. Sort by distance and filter by used
Read truenas, unraid, proxmox, serve the home forums for lots of info on example builds too. But don’t worry too much about getting it perfect. Remember it can always be a little better (or a lot better) but most of the time the extra power is just going to waste your money. Unless you specifically have a need for like multiple VMs at once, serious LLM stuff, etc something seriously demanding like that?