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• WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Show me evidence they do.

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  • dropped_packet@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They haven’t done anything with that data yet*

    While clearly the lesser evil in this moment, I wouldn’t count on that lasting forever.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      As every user at some points mentions: They are a public company and once they can’t satisfy their shareholders, they will turn on the data faucet to 3rd parties. They already have the an advertisement CDN.
      They already have everything in place to achieve that situation.

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  • FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I can’t. Everything they release is proprietary and locked down, so let’s just trust what they say.

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    • WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So, they’re doing shit you can prove, but they’re doing it. Do I have that right?

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      • FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I will be honest that I don’t know what exact shit are we discussing here I rather wanted to point that Apple might not be as much privacy first company as they like to present themselves.

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  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No proof.
    But even the US is scared of encrypted exfiltrated data because their adversaries could crack the encryption later on.

    Same here.
    They have the data and for now decided to not yet do do anything too bad with it.
    But Google also had the motto “Don’t be evil” at one point.

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    • WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So…. No proof.

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      • zo0@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Apple absolutely does collect huge amounts of data from the users. The difference is they don’t directly ‘sell’ that data to advertisers. Instead they get paid to personalize the ads themselves and wear that as a badge for ‘advocating privacy’. Stock Android is horrendous compared to what Apple does, yes. However you usually have the option to ditch it for a more privacy respecting Android.

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      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Same for you. Proof that Apple isn’t using it to analyze your (usage) data.
        And it’s not okay just because it’s the 1st party analyzing it because they arent selling it.

        I am really tired of the hypocrisy of some lemmy users advocating for maximum privacy to the detriment of everyone around them but on the other hand just saying “yeah, that’s totally fine” and basically breaking all their principles.

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      • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Look up a YT channel called Tech-Bore

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