Comment on Without the precursor of Spirituality and Religion, there can be no morality.

• Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Then I don’t see why you are wasting your time and mine.

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  • Fletcher@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Never a waste of time to speak truth.

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    • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would argue that morality came before religion or spirituality, and therefore does not require either of them to exist.

      My argument is that a “unified morality” can only be the result of a Spiritual or Religious belief structure due to the subjective nature of morality, the need for it to be easily communicated and enforced, and the need for a “bigger than me” idea to connect the species to in order to follow.

      I support this by the fact that the evidence we have of Human civilization, and precivilization humans, demonstrates a spiritual belief structure in all documented groups.

      This is not to say that morality in the modern age requires either Spirituality or Religion, because it doesn’t due to the thousands of years of “debate”, but that the formation of these things were necessary to bring our species together into larger groups because there is no inherent moral code in humans, and we are simply animals who need to be taught everything to survive by our elders and peers.

      I do not believe in a “God” and I am not arguing that one is required for morality to exist, but I am saying that spirituality is the precursor to the idea of “morality” and required for “morality” to form in the first place.

      Never a waste of time to speak truth.

      The arrogance on you is absurd. Last chance to make a point month old account.

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      • Fletcher@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I believe someone else used the term ‘sealioning’. It fits, in your case. This is why I don’t see any point in having a debate with you. Waste your time with someone else.

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