Either your argument is that morality is somehow “god given” through religion, in which case I have to ask, which god? Which religion? There’s a lot of those around or no longer around, with different nuances of morality, contradicting that idea.

That supports my idea. It doesn’t contradict it.

All evidence we have demonstrates spirituality has existed in our species as long as we have existed in groups. This leads me to believe that spirituality was a catalyst to a unified morality that took a very long time to agree on, and we still don’t agree on it.

Or each civilization developed religion and incorporated their respectove ideas about morality, but then morality necessarily precedes religiosity.

Spirituality predates recorded civilization. It is also observable in other animals.

Either way, doesn’t make sense.

Probably because you are assuming I am religious, when I am simply referring to our historical evidence.

Besides, the idea that a fear of god is necessary to make people “moral” is ridiculous. If you would commit immoral atrocities if you didn’t believe in god, then I’m sorry, that makes you a bad person; but don’t project that unto other people.

Who taught you your morals?

I also agree with you, but we are speaking about precivilization humans so do not be offended for them. They didn’t know any better and it was either believe the rock brings a good hunt or starve in the wilderness alone.

Empathy is sufficient for morality, while god, arguably, is an amoral monster.

Empathy is not inherent, or it wouldn’t need to be taught.

God cannot exist based on all evidence we have on the subject.

Cheers, a moral atheist

Thank your Religious ancestors and ancient humans for debating all of these ideas over thousands of years so you can quickly come to the conclusion that God cannot possibly exist.

Cheers, someone who thinks atheists are as annoying as theists, and just as prone to being human.