Comment on Without the precursor of Spirituality and Religion, there can be no morality.

Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The idea that things are inherently “Right” or “Wrong”, “Good” or “Bad”.

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  • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And to determine that, “I won’t hurt you if you don’t hurt me” and “does this hurt someone?” isn’t enough as a starting point?

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    • Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      When did you learn that hurting was wrong and who taught you?

      How many people do you know, or have known, who disagree that violence is wrong?

      We require our “morality” to be taught. You didn’t come to your idea of morality alone, and all evidence suggests that humans have had spiritual beliefs throughout our species existence, and unified spiritual belief seems to be a requirement for a stable, spreadable, and consistent “moral code” that can be taught to everyone.

      Even our relatives that we can observe have “premoral behaviours”, which we would have needed to form our “morality”, yet they do not have a consistent “moral” code across the entire species.

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      • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When did you learn that hurting was wrong and who taught you?

        The first time something hurt me and I didn’t like it.

        My human, inherent empathy then led me to the conclusion that I don’t want other people to be hurt needlessly. Yes, empathy is indeed inherent and has evolutionary roots. I absolutely can’t explain that entire framework here, you could read The Selfish Gene for example.

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