This asshole thinks that religions and beliefs stop people from being hedonistic, consumerist pigs. lololololol.
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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So you stand for nothing? You’ve no values? I mean, I guess one doesn’t need to have an ideology to be a hedonistic, consumerist pig, lol.
DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
You brought religion into this, and your sophist insults.
Sounds like someone has a belief and is upset it’s being exposed.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How do you think you pass over riches, drugs, sex, etc that you can easily acquire one way or another? You don’t cheat on your wife because of your beliefs, you don’t do coke because of your beliefs, you don’t undercut your employees because of your beliefs, etc etc. There literally isn’t any other way to curtail your hedonistic impulses (and other impulses, ofc) but to BELIEVE in something, a sentence or a group of sentences that resound within you at least, that tells you “no, it’s okay, I can hold it in cause if not I’ll regret it later”. It’s either that or, idk, locking yourself up in a room? 😅
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
I dunno, I’d say people do things like coke, cheat, etc, because of beliefs.
They have a belief that “it doesn’t matter”.
But yea, our beliefs, our paradigms, are what help us be better people to each other.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If we manage to understand pretty much everything about the universe above the quantum level, I’d consider that a great success for some bipedal primates on the 3rd rock from the Sun, looool. 😁
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Wait, what?? Are you guys walking around holding back a savage animal through raw force of will?
Like…I’ve done lots of things I regret, but then later I don’t want to do them anymore, because I know it’ll feel bad
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why do you feel bad? Are their lives and opinions that important? I know that the human being is kind at his core, of course, but that nature can be easily veiled with enough wrong ideas. The reason for rampant immorality in some places and times is not because the human being is a natural antisocial, solipsistic deviant but because some cultures heavily uphold wrong things and have completely let go of the right ideas.
DominatorX1@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Please, go on. You seem to be having a perfectly nice conversation with yourself here.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean, I assumed you didn’t believe beliefs were fundamental and important since your whole post consists of being shocked by it, lol. Don’t step back now, silly man.
DominatorX1@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Your thesis so far consists entirely of trite accusations. You got something with more substance?
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thesis? Substance? Do you hold any beliefs, are there any value systems or ideas you appreciate greatly and by which you live by? Or don’t you? Cause if you do, then your initial post is either a bad attempt at comedy or, idk, a social faux pas? Regardless, it’s false, cause you do understand how beliefs are important. And if you don’t, then why do you care? Why did you act out when I said values and ideas get in the way of hedonism and consumerism? It’s not your case, right? That would be shameful, but whatever. And if it is, then at least admit to it the same way you ‘admitted’ not to understand the importance of beliefs, or else it’s double shameful and a certain sign of a silly man.