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rglullis@communick.news 3 weeks agoWhen do you think Bluesky started?
It was announced in 2019 as an internal Twitter project, but it became its own thing in 2021-ish. Then they spent two years reinventing a bunch of things so that they could keep Twitter’s original view - i.e, a system where they could delegate all the boring/liability heavy parts to users (identity, UGC) while keeping them in control of rent-seeking toll gates (the AppView).
The people behind it were several orders of magnitude more well known.
It takes more than money and a good contact network to build something that can attract people. Jack nowadays is pushing for Nostr, but as a product it is a lot less appealing to the masses compared to Bluesky.
Skavau@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I mean Bluesky had 1 million registered users in September 2023, and 3 million in February 2024. It clearly had a higher base level footprint than Lemmy has ever had.
rglullis@communick.news 3 weeks ago
But why are you comparing Bluesky’s numbers with Lemmy’s. A more apt comparison would be against the whole Fediverse. We had ~2 million people in early 2023, and we’ve gone down since then.
We had ~2 million people in early 2023, and we’ve gone down since then
Skavau@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
You initially made the Bluesky comparison. And to be clear, by "Lemmy" I did mean the wider Fediverse.
In any case, Bluesky itself is also flatlining and declining anyway.
rglullis@communick.news 3 weeks ago
Yeah, but my point is that they were a lot more effective in capturing mindshare when it was needed, and they didn’t see growth as compromise on their values like people do here.
When the next fuckup from Big Tech comes around, do you think that people will think about going to Mastodon/Lemmy/PieFed, or they will just look at Bluesky?
barrygoldwater@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
That’s a great chart. It’s nice to definitive proof of what I “feel” has been happening.
I see more hateful attacks on here than I ever seen on Reddit. I like the idea of Lemmy, but Reddit seems to be more well-behaved than Lemmy.