Comment on KAOSnow, a totally new take on Democracy

• Efwis@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There will be moderation to prevent obviously harmful activity such as doxxing and csam amongst others.

  But I am curious how you see absence of moderation as a form of censorship. If you could post anything you want without any repercussions for what you post, aside from others that would downvote you or point out what they see as wrong in your post, how is that censorship? No one changes your post, except you. Once again, with the exception of the aforementioned examples, how is there censorhip?

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  • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Generally, you're going to get targeted on a personal level. There are enough people oit there who turn factual conversations into a personal level. Either they're offended by your perspective or fundamentally opposed or just a*holes. Ant they'll call you names, yell at you, gather their friends to do the same and follow you and try to make your life miserable... And then you're going to stop sharing your opinion openly. That's what they mean with it's censorship (as well). Because you're going to be systematically silenced.

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    • Efwis@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I won’t, they can bitch and moan all they want. It’s a them problem because they don’t want to hear the truth that disagrees with their standing.

      They can yell, call me names or anything else. They want to dox me, let them it just shows how weak they really are.

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      • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think you misunderstand the problem. You can do that, yes. But have you ever moderated a diverse group of people? They're all very different. Some are bold and loud. Some aren't. Some are introverted or quiet. Or you somehow need to make them feel comfortable and safe before they speak up at all. Some say the first thing that comes to mind and they talk a lot, and some aren't even part of the conversation and you need to make them speak up at the right moment, effectively silencing the other people, because then you'll get their nuanced opinion and they used the time to really think it through.

        I've managed some people in smaller groups over the time and I can tell you your approach just silences the interesting people. You won't end up with all opinions that way. And the result of the entire conversation just won't be great.

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• preussischblau@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How do you figure? Not arguing, just interested.

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  • ada@friend.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    @preussischblau @howrar The Nazi bar problem.

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    • Efwis@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We are currently looking into that issue, it was something I brought up a few weeks ago. The question to answer is where is the line of intolerance and tolerance. Obviously we don’t want to encourage any hate speech or anything along that line. We also have a living constitution for KAOS so that amendments and such as can be added, which will be our institutions basis for administrative decisions as well as regulations and changes to the terms or service.

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