It’s a better measure because western countries outsource manufacturing and associated pollutions to other countries and then pretend to be green.
It’s a better measure because western countries outsource manufacturing and associated pollutions to other countries and then pretend to be green.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
And China is continuing to increase market share on goods like electronics and vehicles, by choice.
The USA has the highest GDP in the world and has a CO2 per GDP of 0.26 to Chinas 0.44. Are you saying China is just pretending to be green and the USA is a beacon of hope for the environment?
nednobbins@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
It’s a better measure but not a perfect one. The big problem with the US-China GDP comparison is that the US has much more of a service economy while China has a much more manufacturing based economy.
Manufacturing pollutes much more than services do but services don’t exist without the manufacturing.
That’s why I was saying a better measure would be pollution per GNP. That would cut out services and basically just count manufacturing output. That would make sense because it’s the biggest source of pollution and it’s the source you can do the most about (ie there’s a lot of room to make many parts of the manufacturing chain cleaner).
Nobody is as green as their marketing suggests and China is no exception. China is making huge investments in green tech and there’s still a long way to go.
AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 18 hours ago
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I am not comparing them with USD, the user who brought up GDP did because their source specifies it.
AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 17 hours ago
You’re right, you’re referring to the original source, which is supposedly already in PPP dollars, so I deleted my previous comment. Thanks for the correction. Regardless, that data is 2011, so it’s kinda useless to me because that’s before the energy transition of China.