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ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Youtube shorts.

Imagine you’re a gamer, one who is interested in game Design. Your view history has games, gaming, game design, but it’s also full of algotrash talking heads, scam baiters, shit slingers. You open the YouTube app on your phone, and it immediately opens to shorts, you don’t remember settings that as the default but it’s fine, you recognize the creator and the 45 second clip was neat. Swipe up. Next video, it Nile Blue dropping a beaker of chloroauric acid. Next video, its Chris Boden yelling about some kind of electrical infrastructure you don’t understand (any that’s pretty cool). Next video, Thor, speaking softly, explaining an aspect of game design that you never thought of. This one catches your attention, its in your wheelhouse, its something you’re genuinely interested in. You click the profile, swipe through a few more shorts. Your algorithm is permanently damaged. Your a pirate software fan now, whether you like it or not.

Or you can use freetube and never see algotrash talking heads in your feed and never enter into this cycle.

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seralth@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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- A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  and he acts like a 12 year old hopped up on meth and red bull.
  
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- ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Never talked shit about about Chris, love the guy, but its absolutely true that he partakes in the same clickbaity tendencies that lead us to this problem in the first place.
  
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A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I really fucking hate that, too. The algorithm is so fucking vile and evil.

I cant even watch the content i want to watch on youtube, like fishing and guns (with the exception of forgotten weapons and InRange, which the algorithm doesnt seem to view as gateways to right wing indoctrination), because if I so much as hover my mouse over one of the thumbnails of that kind of content, I immediately get blasted with 3 months of right wing extremist pseudo-intellectual diarrhea that I cant escape without completely resetting my browser.

but if I spend an evening watching retrogaming stuff? Oh fuck, Youtube just completely ignores that and pretends it never saw me show interest in that.

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Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve been downvoting all of this trash for 3 months now. I still get this trash. It has nothing to do with algorithm anymore. This is Homogenisierung

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- ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Downvoting requires you: A. Click into the video
  B. Select the downvote button, thereby engaging with the video
  
  The algorithm is not designed to feed you content you like, only content that will generate clicks and interaction. The only way to eliminate that content from your feed is to forcibly remove it, as they have designed the feed such that it is impossible not to interact with it.
  
  Again, I suggest trying freetube as a frontend, as it allows you to retitle and rethumbnail clickbait videos, and remove shorts from your feeds, thereby eliminating the skinner box that is youtube from your life.
  
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  - Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    With videos, yes, but not with shorts. It’s like TikTok where you swipe, but you have like and dislike buttons as well. I dislike all AI slob, Nile, nearly all of that shitty promoted stuff, but still get these.
    
    Same with Spotify, my weekly mix rarely contains more than 1 song I actually listen to (metal, punk, hardstyle, hardcore) yet it gives me hardbass and this kind of genre where all you hear is distorted over-amplified bass every third of a second and that’s it… I dislike like a tinderella
    
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    ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    A STRANGE GAME. THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY… … HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?
    -Joshua/WOPR - War Games (1983)
    
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  - A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    youtube is a lot like telephone scammers.
    
    The only winning move is to not to play, because anything you do just confirms existence and worsens experience.
    
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    philipp_@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They hide it, but they do have RSS Feeds for each channel. I follow all the channels that interest me via my feed reader and only interact with the site to watch the videos. I never click any links to anywhere and am not logged in.
    
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