Comment on Why is the manosphere on the rise? UN Women sounds the alarm over online misogyny

• TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  hope you realize how alienating a sentence like this is, for someone who is as stomped by society as many women are.

  How? How am I alienating anyone by telling them something they already know?

  This narrative is exactly what prevents any form of class solidarity

  What the fuck are you talking about? Did you not read the rest of the post… My point was that if being a man isn’t the inherent source of your struggle then it must not be the real problem…the real problem is class war.

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  • sudneo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Saying “it’s us, men” (to rule the world) is inherently a narrative that avoid discussing the class division, because being a man is not being part of a social class.

    I might have misunderstood what you meant, but this argument is put forward quite often by certain groups that lost completely touch with the class struggle, hence my remark.

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    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Saying “it’s us, men” (to rule the world) is inherently a narrative that avoid discussing the class division,

      I wasn’t the one who claimed white young men were being systemically oppressed… If you are examining class division through gender then it is an impossible topic to avoid.

      You can’t have it both ways. I’ve been saying the whole time it doesn’t make sense to examine class struggle through the lens of gender, my claim about “us men” was made to highlight the contradictory nature of the original claim.

      because being a man is not being part of a social class.

      That is what I’ve been saying the whole time…

      The reason I brought it up was to dispel the claim that white men were being specifically targeted in the first place.

      Did you not read the context of the post?

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