do you think massacring villages is not an act of war
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SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 months agoSo Iran is complicit in massacring villages and taking hostages on October 7. Do you think masscring villages is not an act of war?
Are you, by any chance, trying to somehow equate Israeli genocidal violence to Palestinian militant defence against a genocidal occupying force?
No I don’t equate massacring entire villages(what Hamas did) with taking military action to free hostages taken by terrorists (what Israel is doing).
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
xenomor@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I just love western logic that decries killing civilians as terrorism when one side does it, but rationalizes the the same act when the other side does it in an efficient, mechanized way with orders of magnitude more death and destruction.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
We’re below the fold here. There are no undecideds looking, just people with hearts and one insane or well paid antisemitic-as-fuck protocols larp fanboy.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
It’s like how there’s between someone being killed in an accident and someone being murdered. Intent is a factor.
If you target civilians and kill civilians with the goal to terrorize a population, then you’re terrorist. If you target a military asset with the goal to defeat an enemy fighting force then you’re taking a military action even if you accidentally kill civilians.
And no, wars are not supposed to fair. It’s not a sport with rules and referees to make sure everything is fair both sides. This is real life not a Call of Duty game. If you’re fighting against a superior military force you’re not being brave, you’re just getting a lot of people killed for nothing.
Non-violent resistance has a higher probability of success and fewer people die even if it fails. That’s the path to a Palestinian state the violence of Hamas has been a complete failure. That should be obvious.
Nothing Hamas has done has improved anything for Palestinians. They just killed a lot of people and got Gaza destroyed.
Terrorists are bad.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
terrorists are bad
So you agree the place the protocols LARPers live should be returned to the Hamas people?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
The way you apply labels to people to dehumanize them makes it difficult for me to understand what you’re even asking. Like do you call all Palestinians “Hamas people”?
xenomor@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is the part where genocidal freaks, like yourself, claim that Israel, and the US, don’t target civilians. Got it.
I also love it when the people with all the power proclaim the wonders and efficacy of peaceful resistance. How convenient for the entrenched power. I’m tempted to call out the origin of the United States, which was violent resistance to an oppressive regime. Funny how we find that story inspiring, but deride anybody else’s struggle to be escape our own oppression.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
When you look at Gaza does that indicate that violent resistance is super successful?
You’ve been reading too much stochastic terrorism stuff.
I’m tempted to call out the origin of the United States, which was violent resistance to an oppressive regime.
You mean that time some slave masters wrote some pretty words about freedom and equality and absolutely nothing changed for the slaves they owned?
I have some ancestors that had to flee political persecution during the American Revolution. When they said they tarred and feathered the “traitors” do you buy that bullshit? The slave masters that founded the United States eliminated political dissent using public torture. Oppressors always label any dissenters to be traitors. Donald Trump does this too.
You were indoctrinated into believing a fairy tale about the foundation of your country so you’d worship “founding father” the same way they worship “big brother” in 1984. The American Revolution changed who had power, it didn’t change anything about the lives of regular people, and certainly didn’t improve anything for the slaves.
I’m from Canada and the founding principle of my country was “we have to work together or the Americans will invade us.” We have more rights than Americans Do you want to guess how many revolutions and civil wars we had to get to where we are?
Most people couldn’t vote in America for much of it’s history. Tell me which revolution resulted in women having the right to vote in America? What revolution ended segregation?
Stochastic terrorists have told you a narrative that violence always works and non-violence always fails. History isn’t on your side unless you read it from the point of view of wealthy land owning slave masters. If your goal is to increase rights and freedoms, non-violence is more effective. If your goal is to get power so you can oppress people then sure, I guess violence works for that.
You are aware Hamas tortures people to death if they speak out against them, right? I guess you just want to always side with the oppressive assholes of history that use violence to gain power.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
It’s not a person. It can’t be reasoned with.
AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 9 months ago
No, it’s not an act of war, it’s violent resistance against an occupying force. As much as you probably believe Ukrainians have a right to defend themselves from Russian invasion, more so do Palestinians.
massacring entire villages(what Hamas did)
Bullshit genocidal propaganda. No wonder you get banned, you Nazi scum
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Sorry but I can’t trust your judgement on matters concerning genocide when you believe massacring villages is a legitimate act.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
To be fair I think massacring villages is a legitimate act when the protocols LARPers do it. I know that’s how they level up. And grinding for levels is good! It’s like self improvement!
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 9 months ago
But fundamentally you consider massacring villages a bad thing… when some people do it.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Wait what? Since when? No. What?
How could massacring villages be bad? We need to exterminate the brutes, so massacring villages is definitionally good!
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
It’s always a bad thing. It’s a bad thing that civilians die just because they happen to live in a building that a terrorist is firing at soldiers from. It’s also bad when soldiers die. In fact, it’s bad when anyone dies.
War is just an all around bad thing it seems. Holding hostages is also a bad thing. Maybe Hamas should release the hostages so the war can end?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Most were deliberately killed by their own diaper forces to create what they themselves called ‘our 9/11’
Deliberately ignored the warnings and moved that shitty festival in a terribly dangerous place next to the open air prison, not unlike what the US did with Pearl Harbor.
Furthermore these monsters always lie. There was no massacring, even the
hostagescaptured coloniser scum (many of them also diaper forces) are still alive unfortunately.Except the ones the colonisers shot while waving a white flag 😂 and the many bombed by the coloniser terrorists.
Hamas are saints compared to these ziomonsters.
The genocide in Gaza makes me furious but now seeing shitrahell being hit really hard warms my heart.
Go cry somewhere else hasbara clown.
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