Comment on The 16‑kilobyte curtain. How Russia’s new data‑capping censorship is throttling Cloudflare

• anachrohack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They’re meant to prevent bot traffic to sites

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  • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de [bot] ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    they also often prevent legitimate traffic from poorer countries, and aggressively so

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    • nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I do not believe they limit it themselves, they just follow setting set by others. You can choose to block all traffic from certain counties of you want. Or not.

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      • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de [bot] ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        i meant other types of captchas as well, but yes, cloudflare is fairly configurable. I also know other captchas can be more aggressive. And of course captchas can also block or harass “high privacy” configuration browsers and clients, and there’s also the strategy of infinite delay, where a captcha is never quite sure you’re really a human, so you have to work through 12 phases of it only to have to do the exact same thing again the next time you’re on the site. Recaptcha V3 with its “automatic” background captcha is also in a surprising amount of places you’d never know about unless you’re infected with some kind of The-Mainstream-Internet-Hates-You disease. Captchas discriminating against poor countries isn’t some big secret though, as far as I’m aware it’s fairly well known.

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    • anachrohack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well thems the brakes!

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  • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Except that bots already have a higher pass rate than humans, so the captcha isn’t even good at preventing bots.

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  • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What the other commenter said and also accessibility issues, aand overall this is a problem which shouldn’t face the end user at all. Just browsing has become just a nuisance after a nuisance nowadays. Just like cookie modals not adhering to browser settings or hiding the reject all behind extra steps.

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    • anachrohack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah would be sick if LLMs and bots just disappeared overnight

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      • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Captchas ain’t stopping them anyway

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• underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The obstacles serve a specific purpose though. Do you believe this purpose is unimportant?

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  • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As usual, the purpose doesn’t justify the means. The goal could and should be achieved without this nonsense

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    • underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How so?

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      • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        These active captchas instead of methods not visible to the user are worse at hindering nefarious use than regular

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