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• captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Being anti-patriarchy is an inherently anti-male stance. A feminist walks up to a man and says “We’re trying to erode your influence on society, isn’t that great?” Yeah, and what the natives need is Christianity.

  They’ll try to lie and market “The Patriarchy” as whatever they think they can get away with at the moment with the audience they’ve cornered, pretend like defeating “The Patriarchy” should be the goal of whoever they’re talking to as well. It shouldn’t.

  Feminism started out as things like the suffragettes, wanting the right to vote in elections. Fair enough. “We want to be equal to men!” Uh huh…so here in 2025 what right or privilege do I enjoy under the law that a woman doesn’t?

  I will also assert this: No feminist will be caught dead genuinely helping a man. A feminist is more likely to burn down a men’s shelter than build one.

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  • 0xD@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    God damn, what a load of incel bullshit you’re spewing. You’re exactly the problem and the reason why women would rather spend time with a bear than another self-absorbed manlet.

    Patriarchy affects everyone badly, not just women. But I won’t be wasting time, you can learn about everything if you just put in a little effort. You seem to be choosing egoistical ignorance.

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      see?

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      • 0xD@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Right, spewing bullshit and then framing resistance as confirmation of your ficticious points - classic playbook. Go and touch grass for once ;)

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  • SpaceShort@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Citation needed

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• Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Feminism started as a way to fight for the rights of women. That’s not anti-male, but it’s also not “for everyone”.

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  • 0xD@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Of course the focus is on women and generally LGBTQ+ people, as they are oppressed groups.

    In its wider sense though, especially with the focus on intersectionality, it is for a fairer and juster world for everyone as the systems of oppression affect us all in various capacities.

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    • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t know if I would categorize that as feminism though. Egalitarianism maybe? “Social justice” in the non-derogatory sense?

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      • 0xD@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Feminism is just a collective name for various ideologies with the aim of social justice for all genders/sexes. Within you will find many different movements with various qualities. It’s about creating societal/governmental systems that afford the same opportunities for everyone, regardless of gender, race or sexuality.

        You could see it as a subcategory of egalitarianism, which in general has the goal of social justice.

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