A competitive spirit is not morally wrong and calling men worse human beings for having one is so fundamentally wrong that I can only ask you to reread and reconsider the above post.
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iarigby@lemmy.world 1 day agowow. most of what you write creates culture that completely excludes and alienates women. See: hostility of current male dominated fields towards women. Blows my mind that you consider going backwards, rather than male culture evolving to be better human beings, to be a solution.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
iarigby@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
competitive spirit is very healthy, however we have decades of very well documented evidence of how keeping it unchecked and alienating anyone with emotional intelligence plays out in real life. I also never called men as worse human beings - case in point that anyone pointing out the toxicity in **male only **culture is labeled as hating men
MolochAlter@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I have a bit of a preconceived notion as to why you are saying this, however I would rather ask you to be more specific before jumping to conclusions. Can you give concrete examples as to how my suggestions would alienate women?
spacecadet@lemm.ee 1 day ago
It’s amazing how well he articulated the problem and pointed out potential solutions just for you to give a perfect example of the type of rhetoric he is talking about that drives people away from the left. Like his link, the parody writes itself…
iarigby@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
my existence and me wanting to not be oppressed is not “the left”. Men throwing tantrums at not having unchecked control over women in the workplace or not having maids at home is not an “articulated” problem or a solution. I’ve done nothing but give support and love to good men around me who are partners or friends because I hurt for how much harm patriarchy inflicts on them too, and having heard from them how toxic, unjust, and completely devoid of empathy the oppressive environment created by their fellow men is, I have zero tolerance for people advocating to keep subjecting humans to that culture.
spacecadet@lemm.ee 12 hours ago
Generally the most welcoming and comforting places are men’s clubs and groups, so much so, that women have fought legal battles to get into male only spaces like fraternities, gyms, clubs, societies, etc… yet there are no men fighting to get into women’s spaces. Really makes you think… the most toxic workplaces I have been involved in were the jobs I had where women dominated the demographic. There was constant bickering, backstabbing, and gossip that me and the men didn’t want to participate in and certainly couldn’t keep up with. It wasn’t until my desk got moved to a factory floor that was heavily male dominated that people cared and looked out for each other more. This may have been because of the safety culture differences of a factory floor vs an office, but it felt deeper than that. Happy hours were actually happy and not filled with angst, no office drama, I could be more open and honest because my male coworkers wouldn’t get “the ick” if I was having a bad day and actually looked out for me, etc… I think women use the “patriarchy” as this nebulous, abstract thing that they can just place all of their failures and shortcomings as a person on so that way they don’t have to face the truth that deep down they are a disgusting person.
iarigby@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
wow. Every new sentence more hateful than the last.