Comment on It's interesting that gun rights were sold on the basis of "resisting unlawful government." They seen to have caused unlawful government.

• figjam@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You aren’t wrong… but leaving guns off the table feels short sighted.

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• nBodyProblem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If we ever have to exercise the right to bear arms, it will be a dark day indeed. No reasonable person wants that. We have many methods if recourse before that even enters the conversation IMO.

  However, there can eventually come a time where resistance is appropriate. Hitler never would have taken complete control of the country, exterminated so many Jews, and started Europe on the path to a world war if the Germans were armed and actively resisting his rule.

  It seems self evident that the German people would been better off resisting Nazi rule than allowing the death camps and WW2 to come to fruition.

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    However, there can eventually come a time where resistance is appropriate. Hitler never would have taken complete control of the country, exterminated so many Jews, and started Europe on the path to a world war if the Germans were armed and actively resisting his rule.

    Bruh, come the fuck on. Jews were 1% of the population, meanwhile like 30% of the population actively supported the Nazis, and far more would have continued to turn a blind eye as long as violence wasn’t being perpetrated against people like them.

    This is nonsense alt history that ignores the fact that Nazis steamrolled and enacted death camps in far more countries than just Germany, and personal ownership of firearms didn’t make a dent in stopping them.

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  • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    What makes you think they didn’t have guns?

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    • nBodyProblem@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Never suggested they didn’t. I’m suggesting that the country would have been better off if they both had weapons and chose to resist.

      We aren’t Germany. The founding fathers made sure we could arm ourselves. The choices we make are our own.

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• chonkyninja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Good luck with whatever the fuck you’re smoking.

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  • barryamelton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    History shows time and time again that collapsing cities/societies/empires cannot be stopped nor redirected with violence. The endemic causes are there, violence may provide a respite but it just accelerates the overall disintegration of the society.

    May what is happening to the USA be a wake up call for the rest of the western world.

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