Lock Fox news channels with parental control.
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Cocopanda@lemmy.world 1 day ago
My parents started screaming at me when I brought up a preacher killed these democrats. Telling me he was a Liberal. When I showed them his sermons in Africa. Again they double downed and said he was a democrat.
How would you respond to this ignorance? What facts can I show them. If they won’t even believe his own words at a church in Africa?
Enceladus@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Cocopanda@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sadly they don’t watch the news on TV. They went Qanon from social media and I can’t get to their phones.
Zenith@lemm.ee 1 day ago
That depends entirely on how sneaky and unscrupulous you’re willing to be lol
I’m sorry you’re dealing with this, it’s a shitty place to be. Personally I’ve had friends have some success with anti-cult/anti-brainsashing techniques but even when done under ideal conditions with people in obvious and outright cults it can fail. The human brain really just is wired in such a way cult think can genuinely hijack it
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sim swap your parents. Nuke their social media.
JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Unfortunately they know how to tame a horse in Minecraft :/
socsa@piefed.social 1 day ago
Stop talking to them
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
How would you respond to this ignorance?
Humans are mortal, you wait for the reaper to take them, then piss on their grave.
Bubs12@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
The more you try to use facts and reason, the more they will dig their heels in. It’s a tough uphill climb
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Hire some thugs to beat it into them. Show them the evidence, every time they reject it, get them beaten a bit more. /j
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
They are obviously not in a reasoning place. I wouldn’t try logic, but they are susceptible to emotional manipulation. That’s how they fell for fascist propaganda in the first place. I would go for emotional truth.
You have to judge if you’re safe to do this, but the next time they’re screaming about their absurd conspiracies, I would get a really sad look on my face, make direct eye contact, shake my head and say, “You’re so full of hate, and it’s really sad.” Just go full sincerity and show them how you see them.
You can even set them up for it. Next time you try telling them some fact that they’re going to have this hateful response to, you can have this in your back pocket. You start with a simple fact, they respond with hate, you reply by telling them they’re being hateful.
This is a modification of this strategy: youtu.be/tZzwO2B9b64
Basically, don’t waste time arguing with fascists, just point out that they’re being assholes.
Now, I say you need to judge how safe you feel doing this, because you might be surprised how ballistic they go. People stuck in abusive behaviour patterns hate nothing more than having that behaviour simply described to them. But when they do lose their shit, you can just describe it again.
Sometimes they will just short-circuit and try to ignore you, or chastise you for speaking out of turn. The authoritarian personality is deeply connected to autoritarian parenting attitudes. Just persist over time, and maybe they will notice that they can’t stop you from reflecting their ugly selves back at them.
I don’t know how old you are, how physically big you are, how prone they are to serious outbursts, but again, pay attention to your body and how much you’re feeling your flight instinct. Only if you feel safe.
I do this with my parents sometimes. Like if my mum is fussing over my kids in some way that I think is invasive, - this was a sore point in my upbringing, she has no filter and no boundaries - I don’t engage on the facts of what she’s saying. I don’t tell her, “That tiny red spot you’ve noticed isn’t a big problem,” because that’s also being invasive and speaking on their behalf. I say “People don’t like to be scrutinised like that. If that’s a real problem they can tell us.”
It’s honestly astonishing how fast this resolves some situations. That might have been a perennial argument about some fussy detail of my child’s appearance, all the time adding to the boundary-crossing scrutiny they experience, but shutting it down by pointing out her behaviour really makes her stop, and it communicates to my kids that they don’t have to put up with it. It teaches them that they have autonomy.
It’s taken many years of demonstrating to her that I won’t be pushed around or intimidated for me to get to this point though. It’s not an easy road, and often the way to know the tactic is working is by watching how unpleasant someone gets when you do it, at least at first.
Again: only if you feel safe.