Comment on We went from LEARN TO CODE to NO ONE LEARN TO CODE GET A CONSTRUCTION JOB in about a 3 year span.

• spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Can he afford to?

  Current trades are underpaid for what is expected from them.

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  • teft@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Then he needs to charge more if he can’t afford to pay his employees more.

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    • Tinidril@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Exactly. There is no such thing as a labor shortage, only activities that people don’t think are worth the cost.

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      • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        There is no such thing as a labor shortage, only activities that people don’t think are worth the cost.

        I wonder, do you realize that’s also true on the demand side?

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    • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If people are willing to pay, sure. But you can pay as much as you want but people won’t necessarily be interested in a skilled trade if the pay in general is low. That is a long term commitment and not solved by a single employer.

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  • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s a labor market. Employers are not owed slaves.

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    • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The other side of the coin is that customers aren’t obligated to buy. There’s always a limit to how expensive you can make a product/service before people will simply stop paying for it. Trying to find that balance point can be damned difficult.

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      • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah, that’s a market.

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• Lucelu2@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  A lot of union halls have expanded their apprentice programs – they just need qualified people to apply and unfortunately, many do not choose to stay preferring an air conditioned office or remote work from home or even the big box store vs the dirty, hot construction site+ classes (our IBEW actually has apprentices working 4 days and school 1 day, when my husband apprenticed, he went to school to nights a week after work). It is hard work, lifting heavy things, random drug testing, working off ladders, carrying a lot of tools and requires a good working knowledge of trigonometry (although many use apps on their phones now-- didn’t exist when he entered it). They are a lot more nicer to apprentices these days as well. It is interesting that we are seeing more middle aged people entering the apprentice programs now, second careers.

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