Comment on Palantir Exposed: The New Deep State [27:27 | JUN 10 2025 | Glenn Greenwald]

• lefixxx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  What messaging, what are you talking about? He has been laying low for years. His latest interview was Jan31 and the only relevant thing is him denying working for Russia

  Do you have any articles to back up “folding like an lawn chair”,“routinely promoting messaging supportive of Russian imperialism”,“spreading falsehoods”

  Here is how you do it: Here is an article about Snowden criticizing Russian government. buzzfeednews.com/…/is-edward-snowden-trying-to-ge…

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  • Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I gave you a specific example. Do a search for his tweets before Feb 24 2022 regarding Ukraine. Note how he was parroting russian official channel claims that the full scale invasion is not happening and ridiculing US security services (that correctly predicted that it is happening). Now do a search for official russian statements on this issue for this period.

    You can do the searching yourself or feel free to assume that I am lying in order to discredit your little angel.

    Secondly do lookup on who he promotes and what kind of things they say about Ukraine. This includes individuals claiming that everyone in Ukraine are Nazis and that Russia invasion was justified by security concerns. Both messages are openly promoted but the russians.

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    • lefixxx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      You didn’t give me a specific example, you made me look it up. And when I looked it up I found a tweet with a wrong prediction that he said was wrong 10 days later.

      Insulting me is not gonna change my opinion or anyone who reads this. Backing up your claims with something more than “look it up” maybe will.

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      • Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        No shit, he said he was wrong after the full scale invasion began. It would be very strange for him to claim that “the invasion” is not happening after russia invaded.

        Before that he was openly parroting russian narratives about how US intel was incorrect and how the invasion wasn’t happening.

        xcancel.com/Snowden/search?f=tweets&q=ukraine&sin…

        16 Feb 2022

        Many times. Want me to say it again? “Russia should not invade Ukraine.”

        The reason I don’t say it more is because it’s a non-statement: everybody agrees with it, even Russians. The only people who think slogans solve the problem are people who don’t understand the conflict.

        Lying about russian attitudes. 85% (with adjustments for preference falsification) of russians support the annexation of Crimea; the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine.

        15 Feb 2022

        I want to see an end to the conflict in Ukraine, and frankly, I think all reasonable people share that position. The question nobody seems to want to contend with is whether amplifying official claims made without evidence are reducing hostilities, or are in fact provoking them.

        3 Feb 2022

        TIME paints here a very different picture of the Ukraine crisis, reporting that it is a drive to censor and criminalize the domestic political opposition—a drive encouraged by the White House—that has brought some to believe war is the only option.

        He even uses the russian term “Ukraine crisis” and blames Ukrainians for russian aggression (ironic considering how “open” politics are in russia).

        He routinely promotes Glenn Greenwald (who said all Ukrainians are Nazis) and David Sachs, both of whom are openly supportive of russian genocidal imperialism.

        I highly doubt you’ll change your opinion on Snowden. Generally speaking, it would be difficult for Snowden fanboys to admit that their hero isn’t the paragon of virtue that they claim he is.

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