Comment on News outlets in crisis mode as Google-led AI search push crushes website traffic

• atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  In the context of my original comment, social media companies like Meta and Reddit have fought tooth and nail to not be considered news networks or news outlets specifically because they don’t want to be beholden to the laws that regulate news outlets/networks. Jeopardizing their ineligibility to be sued for what users post (in the US) by going all in on AI LLM’s scrapers when those scrapers rely pretty heavily on news networks and other media to stay useful means they’ll starve themselves of AI scrapes content, and that they’ll potentially forfeit what protections against lawsuits they have. It’s a no win situation for them to continue to bet on AI which has already largely reached the limit of what it’s capable of in current iterations because of the lack of clean organic training data.

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  • smayonak@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a huge disaster in the making. There’s probably a game theory model that explains what’s happening. AI is a trap.

    At the beginning of LLMs as a consumer tech phase, the big tech companies believed that they would soon generate synthetic data without human labor costs. But synthetic data caused model collapse when used as training data. So they still need humans.

    But now their competitors are using scrapers and summarizers and those are expensive so they have to extract more value from search traffic and that means fewer referrals to sites. Fewer referrals to sites reduces original content and leadabto less traffic and training data for their models.

    The only two ways out are to create an international regulatory body ornto break up facebook, microspft, and google.

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  • Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I do respect your optimism, but realistically, I doubt they’re forfeiting anything. Fox News broadcasts blatant lies daily. All they had to do was a behind the scenes rebranding.

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fox news isn’t legally considered a news outlet. In fact we have literally seen them admit to not being one in court proceedings.

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      • Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes, correct, that is what I just said.

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