Comment on We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink

• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  For whatever reasons Musk has found himself as ceo of some wildly successful visionary companies. It has not changed that they are finally bringing the future to the present, disrupting old technologies in favor of newer and better, for a better world. And the musk from before his breakdown deserves a lot of credit

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  • hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m sorry, but credit for what? For being born privileged and buying talent? If you can’t beat ‘em, buy ‘em, right?

    Yeah, I guess he deserves praise for being a good liar and basically selling pipe dreams?

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Tesla was started by a handful of really smart people with a great idea. Musk was ceo as it grew from an idea into the first new major automaker in almost a century. As it grew from a dismissed toy that no one would buy, into an industry-wide paradigm shift. Most of that time musk preached the gospel. You can’t disregard that influence, you can’t claim the guy in charge had nothing to do with it. You might decide his skill was more manipulative than visionary, but you can’t deny that was part of the success. You might decide any engineering or problem solving ability was not real, but whe was the guy in charge, he did make decisions, and Tesla has generally been a huge success (until recently)

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      • hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Sure, I mean technically paypal was a rather innovative idea for its time, but again, the guy basically associated himself with smart people that had bright ideas.

        Yes, he does have a knack for growing businesses to a larger scale, but most millionaires/ billionaires do, cause they outsource brain matter and decision making to a select few.

        I’m not sure if I ever liked the guy or his largely exaggerated marketing, but being a POS nazi isn’t helping either, so i’m biased towards nazi hate I guess. Either way, he will need a paradigm shift for people to accept him back into the decent human beings club. I do hope he will find a way, but doubt it really.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sure, he gets credit for building hype and getting investors on board. He’s a decent salesman, and probably decent at business in general.

    I don’t care if he’s rich or not, he’s relatively harmless when it comes to things I care about. Trump, on the other hand, is dangerous because he seems to work off vibes and compliments, and that’s scary.

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