Comment on There isn't an easy exploit for this PHP vulnerability

stopforgettingit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is dangerous misinformation. Both PHP bugs are real and together they are exploitable without the server having some other rare problem.

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  • stopforgettingit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You are right, I am wrong. I am deleting my comment. Even if I was right this should still be patched ASAP regardless of what the exploit was.

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  • povoq@slrpnk.net@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So where are the real world exploits? Wouldn’t we hear of lots of barely maintained php servers being cracked open everywhere?

    This is increasingly a story similar to the boy that cried wolf… next time people will not take such CVEs serious anymore.

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    • i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s too soon. Only people who are on top of things would have already noticed, and then even after people notice they’re probably going to want to do investigations and get PR people and lawyers involved before making any public announcement. We’re more likely to hear the consequences from dark web forums first.

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      • INeedMana@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        @povoq@slrpnk.net I think i_am_not_a_robot has a point that it’s too soon

        For unrelated reason I had to wipe my blocklists on VPS for a moment. Just during a few minutes one of my containers was getting hammered with all kind of .php requests.
        Even if it wasn’t used in the wild before, it seems that now bots are running in circles with those new toys

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• fonix232@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  To be perfectly fair, we've come a long, long way from 20-30 years ago when most firewalls were static or at best heuristic.

  Today you can integrate solutions like CrowdSec into your reverse proxy setup (which, let's be fair, most people hosting things will be using to some extent), and transparently scans all requests for known exploit fingerprints.

  Basically, if you've done the bare minimum of opsec, most likely your setup will be safe from being compromised, even if you're running an exploitable version of the problem software/stack.

  And that's just a free and open source solution to securing your hosting - you can further deploy DPI based IDPs, analytics that spots irregular traffic patterns, especially in commercial environments, to protect against such attacks. It's not a guarantee, but such layered security at the very least adds some deterrence.

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• lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  the exploit has been out for over 10 hours

  According to the PHP Foundation the OOM vulnerability was originally found by the security audit they commissioned back in 2024.

  They never fixed it because there was no working exploit at the time and also because all the fixes had important downsides and they went into decision paralysis.

  I do believe that two years is plenty of time for someone to figure out a working exploit, especially with AI assists.

  Bottom line, the timing of this recent debacle is centered around the moment that the PHP Foundation decided to finally eat crow, not around when the exploit was actually available. The embargo was just for spectacle. PHP circles are already spinning it as “see how important PHP is, how much of the internet runs on it, how it’s critical infrastructure”.

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• Reannlegge@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Thank you for coming my nerves, I have been seeing a lot of things on this some sensationalizing this as a big issue and some saying it was not really a big deal. I broke and went to see what of my homelab that really touched the WAN had php, I removed somethings and decided to risk it for someother things.

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