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• Muaddib@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They have a pro-monarchy community (shera), which isn’t great.

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• MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you don’t have extremely strict rules about gender or transgender discrimination or speech in general, then they want to fight you like you’re doing a genocide.

  It doesn’t sound bad in practice but in reality, you get trashtalked for not understanding their vocabulary or not agreeing with them. Respectful debates aren’t possible because they don’t respect any other opinion than theirs.

  It’s just a big echo chamber and Ada is a clown avid of power that loves to threaten others with her powers. That’s just my opinion though.

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  • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are plenty of respectful debates about trans issues, and tolerance of people genuinely not understanding queer topics. What cannot be debated respectfully is whatever or not to respect a person"s identity. No amount of polite language can make such a conversation respectful, as you’re refusing to do the bare minimum required to speak to that person as an equal.

    Creating a tolerant space requires not tolerating intolerance. This is not an authoritarian insight, but one centered on maximizing the freedom of everyone. If you demand a space where you can debate a basic fact about myself, then that is not a space in which I am free.

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    • MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      as you’re refusing to do the bare minimum required to speak to that person as an equal

      That’s what’s you think is going on, but that’s not the case. You jump to conclusions and say that everyone not agreeing with you is a bigot, or should act like they know nothing and trust you because you’re the incontested authority. It doesn’t work that way.

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      • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Again, are you respecting someone’s identity? I don’t care what you think you’re doing; if you aren’t recognizing a person as the person they are, then the conclusion is that you’re mistreating someone. The world isn’t a place where your self perceptions overwrite the person you actually are.

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  • erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    if you disagree with the folks on lammy.blahaj.zone, good chance your a bigot anyways, so your not welcome, and good riddance too. you don’t get to debate our right to exist.

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    • MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re proving my point, thanks.

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      • dipshit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I have nothing against Transgenders

        Yet you choose to use deliberately dehumanizing language to describe us… Interesting.

        Remember kids, when people hate on Blahaj and other Trans safe spaces, there is always a deeper reason. It’s either lack of understanding of the trans experience, or outright bigotry and disdain for those who protect trans and queer people.

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      • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not in that community but that sounds like transphobia to me if you don’t believe in certain parts of being a trans person.

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  • pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m sick of respectful debates about my right to exist. That’s what blahaj zone is for, and it does it well.

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    • dipshit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I agree, I’m sick of this too. These types of debates are shitty and trying to honor them or play along doesn’t do anyone any favors.

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    • will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah. Before I started using lemmy and matrix more I was on discord a lot, and some of the mods there are rather shitty I have to say. Many even think they are allies despite allowing and defending all sorts of transphobic rhetoric like AGP etc.

      Blåhaj has been such a relief in that sense. The only instance I know for sure has my back 100%. No “allies” telling me what is and is not transphobic

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    • MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Right to exist” is a very manipulative way of qualifying trans debates. Most of them go way beyond that, like the questions of athletes, or whether it makes more sense or not to restrict by sex or by gender, and the distinction between the 2.

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      • breecher@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I view you as the cryptobro of cryptobros. And there aint any nice cryptobros.

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• pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sure. Transphobia is straight up not tolerated at all. There is zero room for discussion. It’s not something a community on bz can allow, it’s ada’s mission statement that bz is a safe space for trans people, end of story. That’s why I love it and use it. I wouldn’t call it censorship heavy, at least not in the aame way ml and the like are. You can criticize and bitch about ada and her actions as much as you want, you won’t get silenced. However, I’d still absolutely place it on the authoritarian end of the spectrum compared to a place like dbzero. I call it authoritarian but it’s not a negative thing, it’s why I use it. It’s it done right. Idk maybe I have different connotations for the instance and for the word authoritarian than you/most people, I hope this clears up what I mean

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• SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think they just mean that it’s heavily moderated and principled. Which is fine and kind of the point.

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  • pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yep exactly pretty much

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