Comment on public services of an entire german state switches from Microsoft to open source (Libreoffice, Linux, Nextcloud, Thunderbird)

• A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Is This Anal?

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  • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Close but no cigar!

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• raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Here, you dropped an /s

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  • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No. For $16 a month you get Windows + O365 + InTune + EntreID. That includes role based access to admin portals, as well as for SharePoint+ one drive. You get per object audit and logging access to protect IP, you can remotely disable and wipe stolen devices if needed.

    None of that can be replicated in one product, the reality it’s 10 or so subsystems that need to be maintained. It’s labor intensive. Does it make sense for some companies or governments with scale to switch away? ABSOLUTELY!

    Is this thread filled with a bunch of people that vastly underrate capabilities and ease of use because of a hatred of Microsoft and what they represent and an unwillingness to look at how the users and businesses actually feel and make decisions? ABSOLUTELY!

    I think management and MSP experience in this thread is nil and I think probably nobody in here has ever actually worked at a directors level.

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    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Trust me I have used Windows long enough to know what I am talking about. It has zero features that can’t be replaced with an overall net positive. People who defend modern Microsoft products just suffer from Stockholm or Dunning Kruger syndrome

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      • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And I’m sure it’ll work be run 24/7 with no downtime and a support desk along with a fleet of junior devs and admins working for the low low price of 35k s year right?

        I’m sure it’ll support everything we need for CMMC, most, iso, a gdpr right? No need to put key cloak in front of 40 apps to show horn in proper rbac and audit accounts. Again for $16 a month right?

        You’re a windws user, not even administering accounts or hardware. Your lack of experience is showing and your doubling down on “I’ve used Windows so I know” reeks of shit you see of non experts talking out of their ass.

        Unless you’ve been in a leadership role and done a yearly budget, you have no clue. Adults with experience are talking here and you’re just spiteful lolol

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    • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I agree with everything you said but it’s “Entra”, not “EntreID”

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• Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I hate microsoft as much as the next guy but their office suite is best in class. Its far better funded which makes it so surprising that the other suites arent to far behind. I think with proper funding other suites can get to a point where it makes sense to switch to them.

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  • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Is it? Almost every time I use it I end up hitting a bug or missing feature. Just last week I was trying to get Word in Office365 to keep some lines together. I followed the instructions from Microsoft’s help and it didn’t work. Last month I was trying to get “slide M of N” on the bottom of PowerPoint in Office365, but apparently getting the N is just not supported.

    LibreOffice almost always works for me, far more often than Microsoft Office.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Look if you’re struggling with ms office in this day and age idk what to tell ya. You might be cooked.

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  • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Drives me crazy. Rather than talking about how MS got here and how to fix it you get this screeching.

    Same reason Linux desktop will never be mainstream unless valve keeps pumping billions into the shit regular the users need and want.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah thats what I was trying to add with my reply. Ms is only better because its had 1000x the funding. But even with that funding its not 1000x better its only slightly better. This is a perfect time to fund alternatives and take away Microsofts monopoly.

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      • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        We’re on the same page. Sorry if I came off aggressive. These threads typically become immediate shit shows the second you bring up non favorable Linux points.

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  • Ironfist79@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s really not though. Most of what you can do with Office can be done with other tools, you just have to learn how to use them.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      In libre office I can’t get copilot to turn my entire report to slop in 2 clicks.

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