Comment on ISPs seem designed to funnel people to capitalist cloud services
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Most users have no use for a static adress space. Those are usually business or power-user needs.
This you are classified as that. A power-user.
frezik@midwest.social 6 days ago
The reason they have no use for a static address is because applications haven’t evolved to work that way. Roll back the clock 30 years, do IPv6 seriously so that everyone has static assignments by the time the Y2k problem has come and gone, and you have a very different Internet.
In fact, many applications, like VoIP and game hosting, have to go through all sorts of hoops to work around NAT.
Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 5 days ago
There’s pretty much no use for a normal person, just for business and power users like the person above you.
For your couple examples, nobody at home actually runs VOIP except a couple nerds just like nobody has home phones except a couple of old people. And quick game servers don’t need statics, and if you are hosting something long term that would push you into the power use space.
frezik@midwest.social 5 days ago
Plenty of people used Skype and Vonage. Both were subverted because they have to assume NAT is there.
But they do work better without NAT. That’s somewhat separate from static addresses.
My old roommate and I had tons of problems back in the day when we tried to host an Internet game of C&C: Generals behind the same NAT. I couldn’t connect to him. He couldn’t connect to me. We could connect to each other but nobody outside could. It’s a real problem that’s only been “solved” because a lot of games have moved to publisher-hosted servers. Which has its own issues with longevity.
sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Fyi, Skype was officially killed by Microsoft on May 5th, earlier this month.
Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 5 days ago
As far as I’m aware Skype does not support actual VOIP calling anymore, at least according to Microsoft and the couple forums i just skimmed through. But it’s been probably 10+ years since I’ve actually used it or interacted with anyone who used it haha
And I was talking about static IPs, which are different. And at least in the US (in single family homes) its crazy unlikely that your router is behind any NAT. Unless you’re talking about CGNAT but anything short of a dedicated fiber run or dedicated wavelength (which are not options for residential people) you will be behind a CGNAT anyways. Even if you have a public IP.
twice_hatch@midwest.social 4 days ago
It would be handy for piracy to always know your friend’s IP addresses. Like friend-to-friend networks like Retroshare
Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 4 days ago
And having a friend-to-friend piracy network absolutely pushes you into “power user” territory lmfao