Comment on ABC pulls interview with Palestine advocate from website and iview

• Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Occupied people have a right to resistance

  Absolutely, and the arguments demigrating Hamas never accounted for the fact they’re a key force fighting against the oppression.

  That is not what was done on October 7th, it doesn’t undermine the Palestinian cause for freedom, but that was shameful, and completely undermines their cause, as has been demonstrated by the insane response by the Israelis and the lack of care by a lot of people around the world.

  You know the people i’m sure, the “they brought it on themselves” crowd.

  European settlers exterminating indigenous people to take their land is about as inline with Australian ideals as it gets

  Australia has a terrible past, and we haven’t treated our first Australians in any way well, but there are a lot of us trying to reconcile the past and build a better future with what we have.

  We haven’t lived up to the ideals we aspire to in the past, but that doesn’t mean we discard them. It means we acknowledge our failures and begin to make amends where its possible.

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  • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    but that was shameful, and completely undermines their cause

    You realise that there is no form of militant resistance that Hamas could engage in that would not be framed like this? Because Israel and Israel friendly media do the framing.

    We haven’t lived up to the ideals we aspire to in the past

    Hypocrisy is when you judge yourself by your intentions, and others by their actions.

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    • Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Oct 7th wasn’t a framing issue. Crimes need to be recognised for what they are. Ameliorating factors, such as reasonable resistance don’t go to the medieval activities of that day.

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      I judge my country by my and my countrymens actions now and passed. I humbly acquiesced to that past, re-read it.

      You have a skewed view of the world if you somehow thought that position in conjunction with my criticisms of Israel, and their refusal to even acknowledge the crimes they’re committing is somehow hypocritical.

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      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Oct 7th wasn’t a framing issue. Crimes need to be recognised for what they are. Ameliorating factors, such as reasonable resistance don’t go to the medieval activities of that day.

        So the answer to my question is: no, you don’t realize that any militant resistance Hamas engages in will be framed as “medieval barbarism”.

        I judge my country by my and my countrymens actions now and passed. I humbly acquiesced to that past, re-read it.

        Then you have to recognize that Australian ideals are entirely in line with what Israel is doing. Australia’s actions, both then and now, show that.

        You have a skewed view of the world if you somehow thought that position in conjunction with my criticisms of Israel, and their refusal to even acknowledge the crimes they’re committing is somehow hypocritical.

        I thought we were talking about Australia’s values? Why are you talking about your own personal ones now?

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