Comment on ABC pulls interview with Palestine advocate from website and iview
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 1 week agoYou’re not understanding. Theres a point when the crimes become so heinous that it doesn’t matter what justification they claim, the justification is sufficient. Israel has passed that point, a long time ago in my opinion.
October 7th was heinous and likewise Hamas’ crimes have no justification. That doesn’t somehow ameliorate or absolve the Israelis of the crimes they’re committing.
The difference between the two groups from an Australian perspective is, Israel is a so called liberal democratic nation and has been an erstwhile ally of Australia due to our percieved alignment in values.
What they are doing to Palestinians is so against these ideals that it must call into question our relationship with them.
In Hamas’ case Australia has next to no relationship with, so our reaction to their behaviour is more simple, as its a contnuation of our determinations of them as a group.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Occupied people have a right to resistance
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 1 week ago
Absolutely, and the arguments demigrating Hamas never accounted for the fact they’re a key force fighting against the oppression.
That is not what was done on October 7th, it doesn’t undermine the Palestinian cause for freedom, but that was shameful, and completely undermines their cause, as has been demonstrated by the insane response by the Israelis and the lack of care by a lot of people around the world.
You know the people i’m sure, the “they brought it on themselves” crowd.
Australia has a terrible past, and we haven’t treated our first Australians in any way well, but there are a lot of us trying to reconcile the past and build a better future with what we have.
We haven’t lived up to the ideals we aspire to in the past, but that doesn’t mean we discard them. It means we acknowledge our failures and begin to make amends where its possible.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
You realise that there is no form of militant resistance that Hamas could engage in that would not be framed like this? Because Israel and Israel friendly media do the framing.
Hypocrisy is when you judge yourself by your intentions, and others by their actions.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 1 week ago
Oct 7th wasn’t a framing issue. Crimes need to be recognised for what they are. Ameliorating factors, such as reasonable resistance don’t go to the medieval activities of that day.
I judge my country by my and my countrymens actions now and passed. I humbly acquiesced to that past, re-read it.
You have a skewed view of the world if you somehow thought that position in conjunction with my criticisms of Israel, and their refusal to even acknowledge the crimes they’re committing is somehow hypocritical.