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Holyginz@lemmy.world 3 days agoVegan food is not available everywhere. It also provides less flexibility, more effort involved in setting up your diet. If education were such a big factor, i would think vegans would have more self awareness in how they try to provide information and talk to others. Also, just because vegan food is inexpensive where someone is doesnt mean it is everyone. Most important is availability. There are a lot of people who don’t have access to it. I’ll tell you right now someone getting in my face being all aggressive is going to make me ignore them, doesn’t matter their message.
theolodis@feddit.org 3 days ago
Ok, so so you’re saying me that somewhere 200g of meat is cheaper than 200g of tofu? Because an average meal is pretty much vegan except for the protein, if you cook with oil instead of butter (which is also cheaper).
But yeah, no matter what I say, you’ll claim it’s wrong, mainly because you’re not really interested in anything but spreading your words. Which is fine, have a nice day.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
No he’s saying there are places that can’t get 200g of tofu. So it would need to be imported which would make it cost more than 200g of meat. Also, often times, those places that don’t have 200g of tofu, the people living there grow and eat their own livestock. I personally know of Mexican villages that don’t have a grocery store within 150 miles. So like you’ve already been told once in the thread, check your privilege. I’m happy that you’re happy about your dietary choices. I’m also especially happy for you that you have the opportunity to make those dietary choices. Not everyone can.
theolodis@feddit.org 2 days ago
It’s funny how you come with a small exception when the majority of humanity lives in big cities where everything is accessible.
Of course, Inuit people in North Canada will eat seals, but hiding yourself behind them just shows how unaware you’re of your own privilege and also responsibility.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I’m not OP, the only position I stated was that many people dislike vegans because they position themselves as mightier than thou without checking their own privilege.
If you’re going to try and turn this around on me, maybe you should try and find a way to make your counter point actually an effective one based on the information I had given you. I didn’t express my privilege to you before you decided to tell me how unaware I am of it. In fact as far as you know before your comment, I could have been a citizen of one of those Mexican villages. Would you have told one of them to check their privilege? I doubt it. But then again, why would they bother arguing with such a tiny world view that assumes they were an edge case at best. Want to talk about the south east Asian farm towns in the same boat? How about aboriginals? Or the many African tribes.
All I know about you is that you’re a vegan and you believe that anyone who eats meat is morally wrong and should feel ashamed for not just eating plant based protein. That’s what you’ve given me. So I should assume that about you. What I shouldn’t assume about you is that you’re a well to do white person in a major metropolitan area of the US or Canada or some other first world power where you know where your next meal comes from and have a stable income. I shouldn’t assume those things about you because you never said those things. See how that works? I know you’re privileged because you don’t worry about edge cases like poor Mexican villages or north Canadian Inuits. I also know you’re privileged because you think your world view is more important than others’ and you talk about it that way on the internet.
So now give it a good thought with the information you can glean from my prior comment to you. Did I say I was anti-veganism? Did I say I eat meat? Did I say I lived in one of those major metropolitan areas where everything is accessible? Is it safe to assume anything at all other than I dislike when people push their beliefs on others to make them feel bad about themselves when all they’re trying to do is get by?
I wouldn’t want an evangelist knocking at your door about becoming a Jehovah’s witness just the same as I don’t want people like you picking on perfectly good people who eat meat. Eating meat doesn’t make you deserving of shame any more than a sinner in the eyes of a church.
And just like you said before how you think all meat eaters know that it’s wrong, you might be projecting a little bit. Because I suspect you know it’s kinda morally gross it is to evangelise through guilt even if the goal is an individual eating less meat.