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Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

You do not know what feudalism is. What you described is hierarchy, not feudalism.

I’ll get downvoted to hell probably, but hierarchy is inherent to humans and to primates in general. Even if on paper we create a truly egalitarian society, there will always be people that by virtue of being more skilled or charismatic will always have more influence in society. It doesn’t mean that they “rule” necessarily but more like people will put trust in them to make decisions when everyone else can’t get on the same page on etc.

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DandomRude@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Here is a definition a Feudalism. Pls tell me how anything meaningful has changed beyond the obvious things.

Feudalism is a social, economic, and political system that dominated medieval Europe, roughly from the 9th to the 15th centuries. In this system:

Land ownership was the basis of power. Kings or lords owned large estates and granted portions of their land to vassals (nobles, knights) in exchange for loyalty, military service, and other support.

Vassals managed these lands and had control over the peasants (serfs) who worked them. The peasants, in return for protection and the right to work a portion of land for their own needs, owed labor, goods, or services to their lords.

Obligations and relationships were personal and hierarchical, based on mutual duties rather than state laws or centralized authorities.

Maybe the last point but not really - look at the US.
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- Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Many very rich people own hardly any land. Many very powerful people own hardly any land. Many comparatively poor people may own many acres of land. You could move the goal post and say it’s ownership of corporations but then at that point it’s clearly not feudalism.
  
  Yu do not work in exchange for your boss for protection unless you consider the democratically elected government a feudal lord, in which case again, number 1 doesn’t apply and therefore the system isn’t feudalism. Furthermore you have the option to get another job, move out, save and start a business etc.
  
  You can see how that’s not the case anymore were even marriage is a legal contract.
  
  So yeah, no we do not live under feudalism and you need to maybe touch grass. Feudalism was much worse than what we have now, like it’s not even close.
  
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  - DandomRude@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    You don’t seem to understand what I’m getting at: we are just as ruled by an elite today as we were five hundred years ago. Regardless of the political system, nothing has changed except the way it happens.
    
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    TachyonTele@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    That’s not Feudalism.
    Seems like you just learned about Feudalism and you’re applying it to something it isn’t.
    
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    Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Like I said, hierarchy. Hierarchy and feudalism are not the same thing.
    
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    Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    Regardless of the political system
    
    We understand what you’re trying to say. You’re just not saying it the way you think, though. Words matter. Feudalism is a specific political system. It’s effectively nonsense to say “regardless of political system, everything is <political system>”
    
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