Comment on The technology to end traffic deaths exists. Why aren’t we using it?

• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Bicycles.

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• Evkob@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  More trains, trams, bicycle and/or e-scooter rentals, walking (a mile is what, 20 minutes walk at most?)

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  • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Trains?! For last mile?!
    Trams, sure, smaller buses that run more often too. More routes.
    Bicycles et al so long as they pay insurance, have a plate and know the traffic rules like everyone else - and preferably put them in their own lanes when possible.
    Walking… if you have time and physical ability, but who cares about that, right? It’s so cool and eco-friendly to say “just walk 20 minutes”.

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    • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      so you want to ruin childhood by placing pointless restrictions on bikes?

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      • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Riiight, childhood’s defined by riding bicycles and not doing so would ruin it… uh-huh. Kids can ride them.all they want in parks and bike lanes, but you want them on the street alongside those dangerous cars? They might have a serious accident… now that would ruin their childhood.

        Grownups can ride on roads (if there’s no bike lane available) provided the vehicle has a plate and is insured, like any other vehicle. The driver should have the basics of road safety and rules, as any other driver.

        Your think of the children take is kinda lame, especially considering most kids these days care more about game consoles that bicycles (which is bad imho).

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Trams, sure

      Still trains.

      If cities are designed better, trains get more effective. Do mixed zoning and put housing on top of shopping, and the last mile plan problem is largely solved. For the rest, bicycles and buses work well.

      And walking can be way better with moving walkways. They’re popular at airports, and I’d love to see them more in malls and maybe underground/covered sidewalks.

      The most important thing is to commit and make driving more annoying so solutions to the last mile problem can be created. Otherwise you’ll just end up with gridlock.

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      • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Still trains.

        Subways makes more sense.

        put housing on top of shopping

        Somewhat common where I live, not common enough though.

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    • Evkob@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bicycle insurance and plates? Why? That makes zero sense. We have these for cars because cars are dangerous, not just for funsies. Bicycles don’t pose the same danger.

      Walking… if you have time and physical ability, but who cares about that, right? It’s so cool and eco-friendly to say “just walk 20 minutes”.

      Yeah it is cool and eco-friendly to walk 20 minutes (assuming one is able-bodied, as you mention.)

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      • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Bicycles do pose similar dangers. A cyclists running a red light it the typical example. Forces someone else to swerve and hit a post then what?

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• 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The last mile can be 25 mph. That alone will eliminate 99% of traffic deaths, especially if the roads are designed to make it uncomfortable to go above 25 mph.

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• Quazatron@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There are a lot of other neat inventions that deal with that.

  The problem with traffic is caused by lack of investment in public transportation. Have a look at how they solved it in Paris.

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• sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Have you considered more trains?

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  • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sure! let’s put train lines in every other street! Brilliant!

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    • sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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