Comment on Elektrek: "Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night"
zeppo@lemmy.world 1 year agoThe video ended when he made an “intervention” at a red light. I’m not watching whatever link that is because I’m not a masochist.
Comment on Elektrek: "Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night"
zeppo@lemmy.world 1 year agoThe video ended when he made an “intervention” at a red light. I’m not watching whatever link that is because I’m not a masochist.
Ocelot@lemmies.world 1 year ago
The video didn’t end there, it was at the beginning. What you’re referring to is a regression specifically with the HW3 model S that failed to recognize one of the red lights. Now I’m sure that sounds like a huge deal, but here’s the thing…
This was a demo of a very early alpha release of FSD 12 (current public release 11.4.7) representing a completely new and more efficient method of utilizing the neural network for driving and has already been fixed. It is not released to anyone outside of a select few Tesla employees. Other than that it performed flawlessly for over 40 minutes in a live demo.
midorale@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 year ago
I get that this is an alpha, but the problem with full self driving is that’s way worse than what users want. If chatgpt gave you perfect information for 40 minutes (it doesn’t) and then huge lies once, we’d be using it everywhere. You can validate the lies.
With FSD, that threshold means a lot of people would have terrible accidents. No amount of perfect driving outside of that window would make you feel very happy.
Ocelot@lemmies.world 1 year ago
You realize that FSD is not an LLM, right?
midorale@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 year ago
I didn’t say FSD was an LLM. My comment was implementation agnostic. My point was that drivers are less forgiving to what programmatically seems like a small error than someone who is trying to generate an essay.
zeppo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
it has to perform flawlessly 99.999999% of the time. The number of 9s matters. Otherwise, you are paying some moron to kill you and perhaps other people.
Ocelot@lemmies.world 1 year ago
ok so im totally in agreement but 99.999999% is one accident per hundred million miles traveled. I dont think there should be any reasonable expectation that such a technology can ever possibly get that far without real world testing. Which is precisely where we are now. Maybe at 4 or 5 9s currently.
If you do actually want to have that level of safety, which lets be honest we all do, or ideally 100% safety, how would you propose such a system be tested and deemed safe if not how it’s currently being done?