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cabbage@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They’re separate because at the moment there’s a lot of people who are intentionally or unintentionally confusing Anti-Zionist movements with antisemitism. Antisemitism is hate speech and bigotry which is banned under rule 1. Zionism and it’s corresponding genocide denial is also hate speech but is separated into its own rule for clarity and to also make it clear that polite or “civil” Zionism isn’t welcome either. That’s where we get the people arguing that ‘you should feel hypocritical for supporting Greta Thunberg because [Something Anti-Zionist she said]’.

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  • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, I understand your point and I think it might be the only way of silencing these trolls. Perhaps making it this explicit is the only way of providing clear enough guidelines, I just feel like it's a bit bombastic as a point 2.

    What left me a bit reluctant was your comment that other communities "are hosted in Germany which is a Zionist police state". I'll be the first to criticize Germany (this is precisely what got banned me from !europe@feddit.org half a year ago, after all), but this seems a bit bombastic especially when paired with rule 2.

    I already got banned for criticizing Germany, I don't want to get banned for defending them as well! ;)

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    • MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I may have been a bit hyperbolic calling Germany a ‘police state’ at the same time not exactly since places where you can be arrested for non-violent speech are not far off from police states. Some people don’t believe it’s that bad but I’ve heard horror stories of these laws being used against people the government disagrees with. That has happened and will happen again.

      I already got banned for criticizing Germany, I don’t want to get banned for defending them as well! ;)

      Unless you’re defending or justifying Germany’s legislated Zionism that’s unlikely. Rule 2 doesn’t forbid people from defending Germany it only forbids defending Zionism, Zionist practices, Zionist laws, which can in some cased be thought of as defending Germany. CyberEgg certainly thought so, but he quickly started accusing me of genocide and antisemitism when I pointed out the comment he was banned for so…

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