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Comment on YSK some cities in the US are starting to build an affordable community built wifi network that goes around big telecom companies

RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

This seems like a bad idea.

What sort of protections are in place against nefarious actors that gain access to this network? Do they do anything to isolate each connected device from each other so that two devices on the network cannot connect to each other, such as making use of subnets? Are users connections throttled, and if so, to what degree? Are certain websites blocked to prevent potential malicious actors from intercepting sensitive data more easily, such as bank sites?

I mean, the idea is a well intentioned one, but I can easily see this going very wrong very quickly.

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frezik@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
If your bank credentials can be intercepted that way, then the bank had poor security. They’re not responsible for that anymore than any other ISP.

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- unphazed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Yet somehow ISPs are expected to police piracy.
  
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unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
You really think this would even have live long enough to write an article about it if it wasnt built properly?

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jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
As a service provider, you’re nkt legally responsible for what others do on your network.

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- arrakark@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Yes… But technically you do have other legal obligations like reporting and certain data collection, like who owns what IP for example.
  
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  - jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Depends on the country. Thats not required for tor operators in the US and Germany
    
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owsei@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Why would you not use TLS to connect to sites on a mesh network?

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- RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I don’t know, I find people do all sorts of stuff with their networks all the time that has me scratching my head trying to figure out why they set it that way when I am eventually called to fix it.
  
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  - owsei@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    that makes sense
    
    but in this case, the bank, or whatever good site, would probably not even allow non-TLS connections
    
    and if the mesh necessitates TLS only on an exit node*. Then yeah, that’s a stupid and flawed network. And it also wouldn’t be transparent (in the sense of using just like a normal ISP)
    
    *I’m not sure how it connects to the rest of the internet, but assuming there are exit nodes that connect to other networks
    
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