Comment on It's Breathtaking How Fast AI Is Screwing Up the Education System

• Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  • Require students to cite their sources

  • Require students to show their working

  • Ask students questions related to the process of a given task during class

  • For things like media analysis, require them to do it with a pencil and paper without the use of computers where possible

  • Treat the use of LLMs as an act of academic plagiarism

  All of these are things that schools should already be doing holy shit

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  • makyo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, this absolutely. It should have always been like this but there is no other option now with AI.

    Only thing I disagree with is using LLMs - if anything they should make that mandatory now because it’s going to be totally integrated in the future and they’re going to need to get used to using it. BUT grading should be 1000% more stringent on getting facts right and specifically looking for things that LLMs get wrong.

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• Eggyhead@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s possible, but it takes time and effort to prepare, and I’m not getting paid at home, so I’m reluctant to do it.

  You could offer the students a choice: no AI and a 5 slide presentation, or allow AI but with a 15 slide presentation, then let them decide. AI makes work more efficient for us, so if we can be 3x more productive, I should expect 3x more product.

  I taught an ESL group once. One of the girls, around 15-17, plastered a bunch of ChatGPT text on the slide and sat the whole period on her phone. When it was her group’s turn, she quickly realized the position she put herself in as she was now in at the front of the class trying to sound out a wall of high-level English words she’d never heard before. I gave her the standard score because, even though she failed the task, she tried really hard to read out all those difficult words and I thought that was probably more work than anyone else had done.

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  • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I gave her the standard score because, even though she failed the task, she tried really hard to read out all those difficult words and I thought that was probably more work than anyone else had done.

    That is a tragic indictment on the state of your class. You are failing your students by refusing to give them failing marks for this shit.

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    • Eggyhead@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think she learned the lesson on her own on that one. No need to rub salt on the wound.

      Furthermore, at their level, they already assume that they’re hopeless. I don’t want to reinforce that idea and discourage them from reproaching the subject later on. I’m there to expose them to a subject I love, not be their life coach.

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  • makyo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t understand how you are not paid for planning time. Without providing that the school just makes their teachers glorified babysitters.

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    • Eggyhead@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep. I totally agree. Hopefully I’ll find a school that does pay me for planning time eventually,

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