When somebody says the words Gaza war, they are a Zionist and support the genocide in Gaza.
gigachad@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Despite all the culture of remembrance, despite all the memorials and despite all the history lessons, the general public is simply not aware of how efficiently, ruthlessly and industrially the Nazis carried out the Holocaust.
At its peak, in Operation Reinhard, from April to November 1942, 2.5 million Jews were murdered. 10,000 every day. In specially built camps to which people were transported by rail and sent directly to the gas chambers, where there was practically no chance of survival. In Majdanek, over 18,000 people were murdered in 9 hours. By 1945, two thirds of European Jews had been murdered and in the end only the advance of the Allies prevented the rest from being murdered as well.
This is the much-vaunted singularity of the Holocaust, namely the systematic, industrial murder in special murder factories. This industrial rate of murder is unique in the long history of genocides. Stalin’s camps were cruel, but they were not extermination camps with gas chambers. This also applies to other genocides.
So if you honestly compare the Gaza War with the Holocaust, you quickly realize that it is something completely different. And anyone who seriously equates the two is trivializing the Holocaust to an extent that almost borders on Holocaust denial. This is guaranteed to lead someone here to call me a “genocide denier”, but: if Israel acted like the Nazis in the Gaza Strip, all the women and children would be dead by now and a few last surviving men would be maltreated to death as work slaves. And yes, we all know why Israel of all places is constantly compared to the Holocaust, even though there is no factual basis.
*automatically translated from a feddit.org user I very much agree with. Not citing the account himself to not disclose him protecting them from brigading.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
gremlinsgensss@lemmings.world 9 hours ago
“It’s not a genocide because they didn’t kill enough people yet” tells you everything you need to know about the indecency of the human race
Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
They never said it’s not a genocide. They said its not the Holocaust. We all agree there is a genocide in Gaza carried out by a far-right Israeli government.
They never said it’s a matter of number. They halfly imply it though, i agree, but what they actually explicitly said is it’s a matter of it being systemic or not. It’s debatable, the use of daily bombing is both quite industrial and not as efficient as death camps, so it’s perfectly fine to target on that point. But do not hide behind the number things, which we all agree to be dumb, as a way to avoid considering the potential gaps in a comparison between Nazis and Israeli government.
I think it’s okay to say both have huge similarities that they never should have, but you don’t need them to be 100% the same for the point to be pertinent, so you can accept it when someone points out differences.
gremlinsgensss@lemmings.world 9 hours ago
This is the much-vaunted singularity of the Holocaust, namely the systematic, industrial murder in special murder factories. This industrial rate of murder is unique in the long history of genocides.
The Israelis used goddamn IA. That’s unique
naught101@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Saying “the Israeli government is acting like Nazis” is not the same thing as saying that “the current genocide being perpertrated against the Palestinians is equivalent to the Holocaust”. The former sentence can be true regardless of the truth or falsity of the latter sentence.
gigachad@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
While I think calling the Israeli government “Nazis” is a simplification and kind of weakens the meaning of the word Nazi, I absolutely agree with you.
naught101@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Fair enough. People also use the term for e.g. american fascists. I think it would be reasonable these days treat the word as if it has two meanings, one historical, and one a more general synonym for “fascist”.