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NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

computer vision is definitely a software problem.

No, it isn’t.

If it were only software, don’t you think Tesla should be the best of them all, being the pure software shop they are?

But it is a real world problem. Recognizing real objects in real world conditions like weather, natural and artificial lights, temperatures, winds & storms, all kinds of unforeseen circumstances…

And that’s why that pure software shop is so bad at it, while all the real carmakers shrug… they are used to it since forever.

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zurohki@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
You can be the best in the world and still not be good enough.

Driving a car around using a dozen cameras pointing in every direction isn’t something that’s fundamentally impossible. We just can’t do it yet.

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- NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  You can be the best in the world and still not be good enough
  
  So you haven’t recognized that other car brands’ assistance/autonomous systems make less dramatic mistakes?
  
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  - DoomBot5@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Literally a different thread about someone dieing from a Cruize self driving car not moving over for an ambulance.
    
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    merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Dying… because he was hit by a human driven car. Maybe the Cruize cars exacerbated the problem, but the original problem was that the victim was hit by a car driven by a human being.
    
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- CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  And don’t forget vision is what humans use for navigation as well.
  
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  - TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    And a lot of them are not good at it
    
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  - merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    As well as human hearing, human touch, human balance / proprioiception, possibly even smell too.
    
    If a person is rear ended, they might not even see the car that hit them, but they know they’re hit based on how the impact moves their body. If a tire blows out on the highway, the first thing a driver might notice is that the steering wheel feels sluggish. I could even imagine a situation where someone driving sees something unusual up ahead and then smells something dangerous, and turns around in time to avoid driving into an active chemical spill. In that situation seeing alone might not be enough to signal the danger.
    
    I would hope that a competent self-driving car design at least incorporates microphones, and some kind of “body” sensors that would notice an impact, notice changes to balance, and so-on.
    
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