Comment on Nextcloud cries foul over Google Play Store app rejection

skip0110@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Teknikal@eviltoast.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I installed a few apps from F-Droid that the play store decided to just take over instead and updated them. I think antennapod and signal.

  No way to stop it as far as I can tell.

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• 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Obtaniun > F-droid > Aurora

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  • sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What is the point of obtainium ? Over fdroid?

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    • Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You get apps a couple days earlier

      But it comes with a huge downside: if dev goes rogue or gets hacked, you could install a malicious version of the app that doesn’t match the source

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      • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “If dev goes rougue”

        Isnt that a risk for all app stores?

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• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Obtainium is better, get the apps directly from the source

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I actually like that the F-Droid maintainers check over the apps and warn about anti-features/stop offering new versions if they enshittify.

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    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Their apps also cause tons of problems compared to the ones directly from the source

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      • semperverus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is 100% untrue and you are making shit up.

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      • 7toed@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        How so? OOTL here

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  • Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Expand on this please. I am unfamiliar.

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    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Its an open source software manager, you put in a source (like github) and it manages it (even doing auto updates).

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      • Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m sorry, you lost me

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• Gibibit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not as simple as telling people to use F-Droid. People with non-rooted phones won’t get automatic updates via F-Droid which is a big hurdle. Unless I’m misremembering? I wouldn’t know because I run CalyxOS.

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  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My phone is not getting CalyxOS updates anymore. Gotta wipe it all and move to lineageos now. Man I hate mobile operating systems. I need good linux phones right now. Android can go to hell.

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  • cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I run CalyxOS and have automatic updates from F-Droid.

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    • PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But it won’t work on your dad’s stock Samsung Galaxy, right?

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    • Gibibit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, so do I. I phrased that a bit weird when I read it again 😅

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  • mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People with non-rooted phones won’t get automatic updates via F-Droid which is a big hurdle.

    Not true if the app to update uses a high enough API version and if you use F-Droid Basic.

    NOTE: The Basic version of F-Droid Client has a reduced feature set (e.g. no nearby share and no panic feature). It targets Android 13 and can do unattended updates without privileged extension or root.

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  • idefix@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have automatic upgrades on my non-rooted phone. I use droidify but i’m pretty sure the official F-droid client works the same way.

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  • claymore@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They added that a while ago for all users on Android 12 and up

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    • exu@feditown.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In the Basic version only, last time I checked the “original” F-Droid couldn’t do it. And there’s also some minimum API level an app has to target to be eligible for automatic updates (found that out through updating microg and having to click “update” still)

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      • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I have the regular F-droid and it does automatic updates now.

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  • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I get update notifications from f-droid but have to update inside the f-droid app.

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• Blip6338@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This works very well for tech enthusiasts and people who self-host nextcloud at home.

  The issue is when you are a government or university, it becomes harder to get all your users (which are probably not all tech savvy) to install a third party app store deal with the Android warnings about installing from third-parties, etc etc.

  And this is probably the user base Google are targeting with this move (assuming it’s malicious) . When the higher ups complain that their files are not syncing and need to install things with a special procedure they sometimes wonder why they are not using M365 or Google which seems hassle free.

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  • Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not to mention the “see this big alert saying this isn’t safe? Well for this one time it /is/ safe so do so” While curbing the mentality of “oh it was safe last time so it must be safe this time”

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