Comment on Plebbit Will Never Deliver, Apologies for the Hype, Lemmy's Where I’m Staying

• rinse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m personally planning to set up a bluesky account soon, but running a selfhosted instance doesn’t look easy yet

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  • monogram@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bluesky doesn’t federate, unless you have billions.

    I’ve heard good things about self hosting with GoToSocial (federates with Mastodon) for single user instances

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    • rinse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Our core problem with mastodon design is the same issue we have with email, eventually big hosters consolidate and they start banning people they disagree with. Now, in contrast you have a full p2p protocol like Bittorrent where you can download anything you want as long as you can find people to download it from. This is the model we’re going for in Plebbit

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      • JadedBlueEyes@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The problem (as matrix people found out the hard way) is some media & content is very illegal. Most individuals really don’t want even the chance of being exposed to CSAM or gore, and neither do server operators want the chance of that being shared from their server or written to their disk when that can result in police at the door. You need default-on moderation that is very powerful, and end users should never be distributing media they don’t want to. This pushes towards centralisation of nodes run by experts, and heavily punishes true P2P models.

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      • monogram@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is it a problem though? There are thousands of email providers you can choose form, and they still work fine for sending and receiving email.

        On social platforms federating with everyone might not be desired and defederation is seen as a feature not a bug.

        One your point on power law, the fediverse is pretty healthy.

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  • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s no hosting needed for Bluesky, you can just create an account on their website, like any other website

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    • rinse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But then who’s hosting my content and till when they’re hosting it?

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Bluesky. If you’re okay with Twitter/X, you should be okay with Bluesky.

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