Yeah, same. I’m a GOS user myself but hate the absolutism some people have about it. I would’ve probably gone with Lineage if I hadn’t bought this particular phone (and would likely go there anyway after the support ends, as GOS’ support is relatively short).
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umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 days agopixels are expensive and unavailable in my area.
i hate this trend of needing specific unobtanium hardware for privacy.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 days ago
MXX53@programming.dev 3 days ago
For me it isn’t absolutism. It is about trying to get the most private secure setup I can. Currently, that is Graphene and that required a pixel. If there ever comes a time where another device is supported, preferably one focused on repairability, I will go that way.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 2 days ago
I meant “Absolutism” not in the way of “actually being superior in one way or another”, but rather “considering other options invalid even though they might be good compromises for some people”.
LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
A fork of GOS for EOL devices would be pretty nice I agree , but GOS doesn’t decise phone security, manufacturers do. Any phone with good enough security would be a target device for GOS.
Calyx OS usually run longer on EOL so I would go there before lineage.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 days ago
I absolutely understand why GOS stops updates when it does. And that’s precisely why I dislike the absolutism - the user might have other priorities.
LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
Well . That’s what forks are for. The aim of GOS is not to support a lot of devices. Since it can archive its goals of a reasonable secure device that way. But as I said a fork of GOS would be good , or longer support from calyx. I think I got a year more out of a pixel 3 on calyx OS. But if your goal is maximum security there is no way around the fact that without manufacturers updates and to a certain extent hardware limitations, it won’t be possible to do.
But best would be a good Linux phone so we can move away from Android all together, hope we can see that soon
MXX53@programming.dev 3 days ago
The reason for pixel has to do with meeting graphene’s specific security and privacy guidelines. You can read them here grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices. I’m not a pixel fan specifically, but I am Graphene fan and I like my privacy and security.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 3 days ago
Then maybe Graphene should amend their guidelines to address that not everyone can get that phone, especially after Orange Man tariffs
MXX53@programming.dev 3 days ago
Maybe that should be the case. But according to them they are unwilling to budge on any of the guidelines as to not sacrifice any of their goals of privacy and security.
Hopefully someday they either support more devices, or preferably more devices meet the guidelines. I personally would like to see devices that are better supported from a repairability point of view, like the fairphone or hmd skyline.
But, none of that changes the fact that if you want to forgo google play services on android in a secure and private way today, a pixel with Graphene is going to be your best bet. What I would like to be, or what I think should be has no bearing on that answer.